Would this piss anyone else off? (My converstation with WagerStreet)

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you: Hello
you: I was charged $40 for a NETeller w/d today.
you: The fee was $20 10 days ago.
wagerstreet: What is your username?
you: XXXXXXXXX
wagerstreet: The additional $20 was charged as you had made a withdrawal iin the previoius 15 days
wagerstreet: These fees are outlined in the banking section of our website
you: so it's not 2 per month?
you: I'm not seeing this ...
you: all is found was = "Note: Wagerstreet.com will credit your account with all incoming fees for any deposit over $300.00 *provided the user has not made a w/d in the last 15 days. "
wagerstreet: The fee structure works that if you have not had a withdrawal in the previous 15 days then the standard w/d fees apply. These differ depending on which method that you use
you: where does it say this?
wagerstreet: If you look under that you will see
wagerstreet: All w/d requests made within 15 days of your previous w/d will be charged an additional $20.00 in addition to the fees outlined below.
you: $20 is not a big deal to me, but it's the principle that irritates me ...
you: I've given you guys over 60K in action this year ...
you: and I rarely w/d
wagerstreet: It says this right under where you have copy and pasted the "Note:....." It is the next paragraph down
you: this is the next paragraph "Notify us of a Deposit after selecting your deposit method and following the instructions, please notify us of your incoming deposit (only necessary for NETeller or if you mail us a check. "
you: Just to clarify should, God forbid, I win again ...
wagerstreet: Are you in the withdrawal section of the website?
you: does my next 15 period start today even though I was billed for it ...
you: or from the last time I wasn't billed an extra $20?
wagerstreet: Yes it starts today
you: why?
you: I paid $20 for today
you: I should say, $20 extra.
wagerstreet: It is from each withdrawal
you: This seems like a bad policy
you: isn't the point of your policy *supposedly* fairness?
you: I don't see why my period starts over if I'm eating all the fees ..
you: plus penalty ...
you: plus juice.
you: I've never had these problems with other books.
you: Are you Wagerstreet Bob?
wagerstreet: I'm sorry sir if you find this policy unfair but this has been our policy since we opened. You are only being charged an additional fee if you make more than one withdrawal every 15 days
wagerstreet: No I am not Wagerstreet Bob
you: I will try to be more careful when I win
you: well, take a quick look in my account ...
you: you'll probably notice that I've alert you guys of a dozen errors I've found with your lines over the last 2 years ...
you: there will be no more alerting.
you: have a good day sir.

i can understand it being slightly annoying, but i wouldnt be angry about it.

No, not in the least!

p.s. That's because I was limited 'out' of Wagerstreet last YEAR, and already knew of this horrendous policy, having been burned by it once (and only once).

oh, btw I've played there for 2 years. I've pointed out SEVERAL bad lines. and I've only made a WHOOPING 6 withdrawals this year.

Agree with RPM, lots of fine print you need to read (which I never do )

Pisses me off more when a book who shall remain nameless calls me a wiseguy because I play a lot of dogs and "value" at their book and tells me I have to call in my bets from now on.

I've pointed out a lot of bad lines there too, they always throw $15 in my account.

Pays for a few days trips to Tim hortons for coffee and timbits.

Just to clarify, the part that REALLY pisses me off was (not saying that the actual fee wasn't fuking stupid enough)

you: Just to clarify should, God forbid, I win again ...
you: does my next 15 period start today even though I was billed for it ...
you: or from the last time I wasn't billed an extra $20?
wagerstreet: Yes it starts today
you: why?
you: I paid $20 for today
you: I should say, $20 extra.
wagerstreet: It is from each withdrawal
you: This seems like a bad policy
you: isn't the point of your policy *supposedly* fairness?
you: I don't see why my period starts over if I'm eating all the fees ..
you: plus penalty ...
you: plus juice.

That's ridiculous they don't waive that for the guy. I'd pay it out of my own pocket if I had to before I charged someone $40 for a Neteller fee. Especially a good customer.

Even more ridiculous they have the rule in the first place. This book does not look kindly on winners. Know that when you go in. Withdrawals will always be frowned upon. Used to be only certain days for those but deposits proudly accepted 24/7. LOL.

Bob seems like a decent guy and surely your money is safe there but not my first choice for an out.

lol - VIP did that to me, and one other book who, the 8 times I called in just for the hell of it, changed the line on me EVERY SINGLE TIME when the line had not moved for over at least an hour on each bet (I was curious to see how big a butt-wrangler ranch they ran, and I found out).

i would say the point of the policy is to stop people from making money transfers back and forth all the time. to much administrative b.s. for them to deal with. the $20 makes a slight deterent.

if you have only had 6 withdrawals all year, i bet a manager would be happy to give you the $20 back.

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(I was curious to see how big a butt-wrangler ranch they ran, and I found out). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO.............

I would think (hope) they would waive the $20 fee for a "good" player like yourself. Maybe you can reach someone higher up to waive the fee. I appluad you for pointing out the bad lines, maybe you should reconsider this policy. good luck.

With everyone offering one free Neteller per 30 days and few having unlimited free Neteller's I think even the 1st $20 is excessive.

Hopefully they will change this policy to be a little more inline with the market. With hockey starting next week, this is a good book to play some opiniated puck totals.

The purpose of our Neteller fees is not to discourage winners from withdrawing money, or losers for that matter. Rather the fee structure was to discourage the constant depositing and withdrawing of money sometimes on a daily basis that Neteller and other companies like Neteller encourage.

That being said, I believe that the current fee structure is likely a little high, and thus I am going to go ahead and change it to the following.

One Free Neteller w/d per 30 day period - all subsequent withdrawals in the 30 day period are subject to a $20.00 fee.

I thank Lander and the rest of the members who chimed in for pointing this out.

Regards

www.wagerstreet.com

Now that's customer service! Very impressed that the players and the book can talk civilized and come to a mutual understanding. We all can only hope this happens more often. Kudo's RX posters and mgmt at WS.

Way to go, Bob. I'm sure that you would do *anything* to keep Lander as a customer. But at least he has caused a change for the better for the rest of your customers. Nobody can ever say that the squarest of the squares never did anything good for the industry.

Nice response Bob. Good change.

Nice response Bob, that's customer service for you. Thank you.

While it is a step in the right direction, one free Neteller withdrawal per month seems a little weak when there are a handfull of strong books that offer unlimited free neteller w/d per month.

Anything less than 2 free per week, not month, seems overly restrictive.

I don't see them complaining about multiple deposits per month that they have to pay a fee for.

Good stuff Bob

I would recommend 1 per calendar month, as opposed to the 30 day floating period. It's just easier to track for us.