If you have the discipline and want to make money just play

Journeyman · Sep 23, 2003

Hank Goldberg`s selections...I don`t know his exact winning percentage but I assure anyone who sticks with Hank and only HANK, you will come out just fine in the long run$$$$$

Gambling is about discipline, I KNOW this and STILL haven`t mastered it....

Play Hank Goldberg and nothing else and you will be just fine !$!$!

jjgold · Sep 23, 2003

Just bet underdogs

Guest · Sep 23, 2003

jj c'mon now...someone who just bet dogs on the Sunday early games would be...

A. Doing fine
B. Richer
C. FLAT BROKE!

Just having some fun.

max1234 · Sep 23, 2003

JJ,

The faves are 14-1-1 in the early games the last two weeks. I hope you had a big bankroll.

Journeyman · Sep 23, 2003

Hank$ to the Bank$ words to live by ...

sickgambler · Sep 23, 2003

You guys are all wrong here..

NO such thing as a money making tout.
NO such thing as sticking to favs
NO such thing as sticking to dogs
NO such thing as sticking to overs
NO such thing as sticking to unders

All this stuff is meaningless. If you are winning with a tout now, it is ONLY coincidence and you are probably with the guy at the right time of his great run. He probably stunk it up 4 months ago when you didn't follow him. If the favs were 14-1 this week, BIG DEAL.. They were probably 1-14 week 14 maybe last year..

The ONLY winning way betting is to ONLY bet bad numbers. Weak numbers. Numbers that are off from the norm. If you end up having 12 dogs and 1 fav by doing it this way, then so be it. Let the books pick your games, not you.. If a book has an opinion and moves their line agressively, then let them, laugh at them, and go bet the other side fast.

That my friends is the ONLY way to do it..

TTinCO · Sep 23, 2003

Claude the Fraud, don't you mean to say that the the only way to win is to SCAM your way to a profit?

Isn't that the ONLY way you do it?

MrHockey · Sep 23, 2003

Hank Goldberg - where can i find this guy's picks

Journeyman · Sep 23, 2003

Sick your basically saying NO ONE CAN WIN AT GAMBING JUST BY HANDICAPPING AND MAKING SELECTIONS ON THEIR OWN.... Are you serious? You really think no one out there is good enough to win unless they follow your method?

This would be highly debated, not by me though as I have dropped 25 dimes in the past year...Now alot of that I was up but since I have been at TheRx I`m down big time!

PanchoSanza · Sep 23, 2003

Kick that trolls ass TTinco.

sickgambler · Sep 23, 2003

Sure Journey, you can beat gambling by handicapping, but you better get the better number, or you ain't winning long run. NO WAY.. You can handicap the Cowboys -3, but if it closes at -1.5, you ain't gonna win over the long haul. If you handicap your games at -3 and they all close at -5.5, you will be a winner, BUT.. you if a line closes at -5.5, you better have it at -3 or as high as -4, not -5.5 or you are toast.

Fishhead · Sep 23, 2003

Sick is 91% correct. A good/great handicapper will and can pick 51-54% vs the spread lifetime. If this same player knows HOW to bet(shopping) he or she will hit 54-59% roughly. END OF DISCUSSION!!! CANNOT MAKE IT ANY SIMPLER. Actually, Sick will agree with this statement. I will tell you another fact, if you are all ears when Sick speaks/writes, you will become much smarter in the world of gambling.

valdosta · Sep 23, 2003

I actually agree with Sick Gambler. Getting bad numbers EARLY is a VERY big part of winning. If you are constantly getting so so numbers you aren't going to win.

valueman · Sep 23, 2003

Discipline is the key to making money through gambling and that means NOT chasing losses. I've been betting semi-professionally for about 12 years and have made money consistently every year. Backing teams/horses at bigger odds than their "real" chance of winning is the key. I'd rather back ten 16/1 shots and have one win than ten 1/1 shots and have 4 win. That's not to say you shouldn't back favorites and their is more value in outsiders - you just need to be able to identify value and bet accordingly. You will need a staking plan and a betting bank. A good bet should be about 10% of your bank with an excellent bet no more than 25% of you bank. Average bets should be kept to a minimum - over a season you'll show a loss on them. Specialising is very important - i know jumps horse racing in the UK and Golf and stick to it. i don't dabble in US sports for the fun of it or soccer because my favorite team is playing - that's a mug's game!

Fishhead · Sep 23, 2003

Folks, getting the BEST number is 10x more important then handicapping in the long run. You can either hit 48% or 58%......its your choice. THAT IS THE POWER OF SHOPPING!!

TTinCO · Sep 23, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A good bet should be about 10% of your bank with an excellent bet no more than 25% of you bank. Average bets should be kept to a minimum - over a season you'll show a loss on them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a joke, right?

sickgambler · Sep 23, 2003

Thanks fishy, appreciate the good words, kid. And you are 100% correct, unlike my 91%.. (although what you said is exactly what I said

)Yes, you can win in handicapping, but any gambler that just says outright,... this team will win and I will bet them at -4.5 is not doing it right and even if he's a good handicapper, will ONLY hit maybe 53% if he's lucky, which will only break him even after the vig. But if you are a pro handicapper, and you see the line -4.5, if you find a -4, you go from 53% to 56% and if you find a -3.5, you go from originally 53% to 59% now. Each extra half a point gets you approximately 3% more in wins. A 53% winning pct as compared to a 59% winning pct is like night and day. It is the difference of being broke and living the life on an island. And all because of 1 point. That's what shopping does boys..

over 1 dime bets

Good Handicapper betting without shopping.53-47 record is ONLY +1300 dollars..over 100 games..

Good Handicapper betting by shopping for lines, and getting 1 pt better.. goes 59-41

59-41 bettor at 1 dime a game is up +13,900, instead of ONLY +1300 because of the 1 extra point.

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That is why betting the best number is the ONLY way to go boys...

Amitightornot · Sep 23, 2003

valueman
so, if i had Toronto last night -250 and it closed at -300, is that an excellent bet?

there goes 25% of my bankroll!

Journeyman · Sep 23, 2003

probably best to find a local who doesn t move the number than , they are out there...I use to have a local who kept his number the same...Now that I have been around here for a year and all the talk is about the best number, it wouldn t be hard to beat a local who kept his lines the same!

sickgambler · Sep 23, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by valueman:
. A good bet should be about 10% of your bank with an excellent bet no more than 25% of you bank. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Value,

25%???? The only thing I can think of is you probably forgot to put the decimal in between your 25%, like maybe 2.5%.

I don't even recommend more than betting 1% of your bankroll, believe it or not. At 25%, if you go 5-8 in your first 13 games, you are CLEANED OUT.. lol.. And if you think you can't go 5-9, you are wrong. In fact, you can even go 1-12 after 13 games, even if you are a star, cause it's only 13 games and anything can happen over that small sample of games. 1%, maybe 1.5%, max, is all you should be betting..NOT 25% valueman.. You're really gambling here if you are playing 25%. Actually, gambling with your life...

[This message was edited by sick gambler on September 23, 2003 at 08:53 PM.]