Question about Roulette...

valdosta · Sep 10, 2003

If someone went to Roulette and constantly played the same color, how would they lose?? For instance, they play red for $1000, they lose but double there bet. They keep doubling there bet until red hits after picking red every time. How does the casino keep something like this from happening?? Obviously people can't get away with doing that or else more people would. This isn't something I would ever do just something I was curious about. Answers?? I have never been to Vegas so I have no iea

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

<<< Posted by Valdosta>>>

If someone went to Roulette and constantly played the same color, how would they lose??

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I can't believe you just asked that question Val. I will pretend i never saw it.. You just came into my thread and called me names, and you don't want me to laugh over that dumb question. You better edit this fast or you will be laughed at in the morning kid.

I can't believe you are the same guy that's been calling me a scammer all this time, after reading this question. All of a sudden, your insults to me mean zilcho after reading this question. LOL.. From now on, i give you all the permission in the world to call me anything you want.

Man, what a stupid question.

That's gotta be one of the stupidest questions of all time in forum history.

Hey, i am only getting you back for all the comments you made about me in the last month.. But seriously, this one was stupid as hell. You actually think Vegas should avoid people doubling up on red?? LOL LOL...

Hey val, get out of gambling fast, you should NOT be playing offshore. This business is not for you kiddo. After seeing that question of yours, I am convinced that this business will eat you alive..

valdosta · Sep 10, 2003

I knew it was a stupid qurestion when I asked about it but, stupid question or not, I didn't know the answer

Don;t worry about me, I know what I am doing, hell, I don;t even have to scam to make a profit.

I can claim ignorance since I have never been in a casino before

I am sure there have been pleny of questions just as stupid.

[This message was edited by valdosta on September 10, 2003 at 05:29 AM.]

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

Don't worry, with a name like Valdosta, I didn't really expect much..

I always knew you were a dum dum, so I am not shocked.

Now go back to making pizza's in your little Italian Restaurant and don't gamble anymore Valdosta please.. I hate seeing people like you losing their money gambling.. I am sure your old job of making and delivering pizza's was much more profitable..

red007 · Sep 10, 2003

About 5-6 years ago, I played Roulette at Circus Cirucs in Reno, NV. I was the only one playing at the table. I bet 100 on red and lost. I bet it again and lost. A total of 8 straight 100 bets on red and I lost all 8. I could have sworn that the wheel was rigged.
I rarely will play BJ or roulette now when I go to Vegas.

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

Don't worry, with a name like Valdosta, I didn't expect much..

I always knew you were a dum dum, so I am not shocked.

Now go back to making pizza's in your little Italian Restaurant and don't gamble anymore Valdosta please.. I hate seeing people like you losing their money gambling.. I still can't believe you think the Casinos should boot anyone that doubles up on a color.

I am sure your old job of making and delivering pizza's was much more profitable..

Now get lost Valdosta..

valdosta · Sep 10, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sick gambler:
Don't worry, with a name like Valdosta, I didn't really expect much..

I always knew you were a dum dum, so I am not shocked.

Now go back to making pizza's in your little Italian Restaurant and don't gamble anymore Valdosta please.. I hate seeing people like you losing their money gambling.. I am sure your old job of making and delivering pizza's was much more profitable..

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You make a lot of dumb ass assumptions that aren't true

Valdosta's a fuking screen name you idiot, nothing more, nothing less. I only gamble on sports, I don't know shit about the casino's.

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

Hey Valdosta, I think your pizza is burning, go check the oven, hurry...

And hurry up and have that pizza delivered, and fast... You don't want that customer to get it past 30 minutes, or they get it free, now jump in your car fast and deliver it..

valdosta · Sep 10, 2003

It's 5:30 in the morning, you are such a dumb ass it's ridiculous

I am not Italian and have never worked at a Pizza place. Grow up bitch and move out of your mommies basement you dumb bastard. There's more to life than your mommie's basement

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

Hey Valdosta,

Can you make my pizza with extra pineapple and extra cheese and pepperoni please??

Thank you Valdosta..

valdosta · Sep 10, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sick gambler:
Hey Valdosta,

Can you make my pizza with extra pineapple and extra cheese and pepperoni please??

Thank you Valdosta..

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You came in here and fuked my thread up and talked about what a stupid question I asked. Well go ahead and answer it.

PatrickMcIrish · Sep 10, 2003

Valdosta - table limits. If you had an infinite supply of money the plan would actually work if there were no cap on the amounts you could wager.

peskypup · Sep 10, 2003

Mcirish is correct.

Doubling up, after 8 straight losses you are $255,000 down. now if the table limit is $200,000 you will bet $200,000 in order to - hopefully - be $55,000 down after a winning spin.

There are casinos - such as Monte Carlo - where there are tables with no limits. In theory your system will then work providing you kick off with more money than the casino, so Bill gates could clean up in there.

In theory. In practice, I'd guess they would boot you if you were reaching for a $10m bet or so.

bosox1086 · Sep 10, 2003

Lose 100..double bet...lose 200...double bet...lose 400...double bet...win 800... you're up 100... Looks like a great play right?... give it a shot. You will get your ass handed to you. Problem is, the odds of losing a bunch in a row to the point where you're in too deep are bigger than the odds of winning using this strategy. Therefore, long run, like with anything gambling related, you'll lose.

sds · Sep 10, 2003

Very true.
Understand one thing- the BALL does not know where it landed last time !!! Statistics are meaningless and only hold true for EXTREMELY LARGE samples.......samples do not have to contend with a bankroll! I was playing Roulette not long ago and the WHOLE BOARD was RED!!!! LMAO. Forget the red/black game as a strategy and use it ONLY as a slightly less than 50% chance for even money.
I have an approach that has worked for me fairly well in the past , but only gives you a 10 min window of opportunity IF it even materializes during the evening.
Good luck to you.

sds

bagoftricks · Sep 10, 2003

Your chances of loosing are big because of the zeros. Some places use a zero and a double zero. I would not recommend using this strategy because sooner or later you are going to be down to your last nickel and wondering why the f**k did i start in the first place.

buddyboy · Sep 10, 2003

bag of tricks beat me to it.

on a 00 table there are 38 spots where the ball can land. 18 red, 18 black, 2 green. do the math to figure out the vig you pay for each time you bet on black.

sds · Sep 10, 2003

Euro tables have one zero - much better odds for us. Up here, there are only the American tables with two zeros (greens) and that pumps up the house odds noticeably.
Regardless, that whole display board CAN run one colour at any time and break you fast. Bad strategy - steer clear of it.

good luck

sds

festeringZit · Sep 10, 2003

No. Actually you are both wrong. No bet size
or bank roll size can change the odds of a
negative expectation game. Again, the game
cannot be beaten long term no matter what
your bank roll, or bet size is.

Another point: If you have an infinite amount
of money, winning a constant roulette bet
leaves you with the exact same amount of money.

infinity + C = infinity

Think about it.

"Valdosta - table limits. If you had an infinite supply of money the plan would actually work if there were no cap on the amounts you could wager. "

"peskypup
Certifiably Crazy
posted September 10, 2003 07:16 AM
Mcirish is correct.

Doubling up, after 8 straight losses you are $255,000 down. now if the table limit is $200,000 you will bet $200,000 in order to - hopefully - be $55,000 down after a winning spin.

There are casinos - such as Monte Carlo - where there are tables with no limits. In theory your system will then work providing you kick off with more money than the casino, so Bill gates could clean up in there.

In theory. In practice, I'd guess they would boot you if you were reaching for a $10m bet or so. "

sickgambler · Sep 10, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Valdosta - _table limits_. If you had an infinite supply of money the plan would actually work if there were no cap on the amounts you could wager.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I have to disagree here big time.. If you are playing for 100 bucks each time and everytime you lose, you'd be doubling up, then what happens when you do lose those 17 spins in a row, which will happen eventually.. No way is anyone going to bet millions on the next spin, to only be up 100 bucks if you are right, and be down hundreds of millions if you are not right. Nobody would bet those odds. And don't think it's not possible to lose 17 spins in a row, I've seen it done before.

And if you ever decide that you want to try roulette for a living (which would be silly)

NEVER EVER EVER play at a table with 2 green zeros. You will be cleaned in a hurry. The hold is twice as high for the casino.

One zero.- Casino hold 2.63%
Two zeros- Casino hold 5.26%

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So that means if you are playing 100 a spin and you play for 12 hrs straight.. Lets see here, you spin about 40 times an hr (if table is not that busy) times 12 hrs, that's 480 spins in one day. 480 x 100 per spin, you have bet in one day 48000 dollars in bets. At 2.63% hold (one green zero only) you would lose 1262 dollars a day, and over 2500 a day by playing the roulette with 2 green zeros..

Stay away from Roulette. It cannot be beaten