Its hard to imagine a guy more valuable to a team. I mean Pujols is a great guy, great numbers, but without him the Cards can still get it done. I wouldn't put walkoff homers as high in importance, but just the way he is like this Mt. Everest everytime through the lineup, two or even three hitters ahead the manager and catcher are already thinking of what they want to do. No one has done that in decades and even when his age says he should be declining he still has that power. Barry is still the MVP.
I don't even like Bonds much but he should be MVP and the fact of the matter is he should have one 2 other times and did not.
I played baseball all of my life and the things this man does are unbelievable. He rarely gets a strike, time after time going to the plate and not getting strikes makes it extremely difficult to hit with consistency and this guy can get walked 3 times in a game and still has the "moxy" on the final trip to the plate when they can't walk him and deliver. Another way of looking at it is this, without Bonds the Giants would be out of the pennant race, with him they are 8 games up. Nobody and I mean nobody influences the outcome of a game like Barry Bonds, period!
I played baseball all of my life and the things this man does are unbelievable. He rarely gets a strike, time after time going to the plate and not getting strikes makes it extremely difficult to hit with consistency and this guy can get walked 3 times in a game and still has the "moxy" on the final trip to the plate when they can't walk him and deliver. Another way of looking at it is this, without Bonds the Giants would be out of the pennant race, with him they are 8 games up. Nobody and I mean nobody influences the outcome of a game like Barry Bonds, period!
Agreed, without Bonds, the giants would be lucky to be in 3rd place behind Az and LA.
I was thinking of taking Bonds +150 to win the MVP, but we all know that the media doesn't like him. If they can vote for Pendleton over Bonds, they can surely vote for Puljos over Bonds.
But, I expect the Giants to be in the playoffs
and STL to be home. That should give the nod
to Bonds.
I was thinking of taking Bonds +150 to win the MVP, but we all know that the media doesn't like him. If they can vote for Pendleton over Bonds, they can surely vote for Puljos over Bonds.
But, I expect the Giants to be in the playoffs
and STL to be home. That should give the nod
to Bonds.
The only argument you could possibly make against Bonds is the difference in games played. But even that's somewhat flawed.
Others can do a far more precise analysis of this, I'm sure, but here's what happened when I played around a little.
Bonds has played 103 games, averaging 4.20 PA/G
He's missed 21 games, so that would be 88 PA.
Bonds has a 1.269 OPS. (OBP+Slug.%)
Pujols has a 1.128 OPS.
Now, if we add in 88 PA to Bonds' total (the PA that have gone to other players in Bonds' absense) those 88 PA have to be at .433 OPS to reduce Bonds' "modified" OPS to below Pujols' total.
That is, Bonds' 433 PA @ 1.269 OPS + 88 PA @ .433 OPS = 1.127 OPS.
Marvin Bernard has gotten much of the PT when Bonds doesn't play. Bernard has been bad, as evidenced by his .488 OPS. Ruben Rivera's has been .595.
So, as bad as Bonds' replacements have been, Bonds + Replacements look like they still are hitting better than Pujols. And that doesn't even consider the difference in their home fields, or the offensive players around them.
Others can do a far more precise analysis of this, I'm sure, but here's what happened when I played around a little.
Bonds has played 103 games, averaging 4.20 PA/G
He's missed 21 games, so that would be 88 PA.
Bonds has a 1.269 OPS. (OBP+Slug.%)
Pujols has a 1.128 OPS.
Now, if we add in 88 PA to Bonds' total (the PA that have gone to other players in Bonds' absense) those 88 PA have to be at .433 OPS to reduce Bonds' "modified" OPS to below Pujols' total.
That is, Bonds' 433 PA @ 1.269 OPS + 88 PA @ .433 OPS = 1.127 OPS.
Marvin Bernard has gotten much of the PT when Bonds doesn't play. Bernard has been bad, as evidenced by his .488 OPS. Ruben Rivera's has been .595.
So, as bad as Bonds' replacements have been, Bonds + Replacements look like they still are hitting better than Pujols. And that doesn't even consider the difference in their home fields, or the offensive players around them.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by benstern:
Don't EVER put that steroid freak in the same sentence as the babe!! NO COMPARISON
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OK benstern, I will comply with your request.
Barry Lamar Bonds is the greatest home run hitter of all time.
Don't EVER put that steroid freak in the same sentence as the babe!! NO COMPARISON
OK benstern, I will comply with your request.
Barry Lamar Bonds is the greatest home run hitter of all time.
