All-Time Baseball Team

MadCapper · Jul 22, 2003

My 25 man roster. (and 10 September call-ups)

CA: Johnny Bench - ultimate combo of bat and glove behind the dish.
1B: Lou Gehrig - one can only imagine, "what if"
2B: Raja - 5 years of .400 avg
3B: Mike Schmidt - Awesome bat and above avg glove.
SS: Honus Wagner - Best in a rather shallow position.
RF: Babe Ruth - Imagine if he didnt begin his career as a pitcher? He hit more HR then full teams.
CF: Willie Mays - Best all around player ever.
LF: Teddy Ball game - What if he didnt serve in the war????

RHS: Clemens - In an era of the 5 man rotation...300 wins is invincible.
LHS: Koufax - Most dominant lefty ever.

Bench:
CA: Mike Piazza (I am a Yankees fan)
1B: Jimmy Foxx
2B: Nap Lajoie
SS: ARod
OF: Aaron, Dimaggio, Bonds, Cobb, Mantle

LHS: Grove
RHS: W.Johnson, Mathewson, B.Gibson
CLS: Eck

September call-ups:
Yogi Berra
Rickey Henderson
George Brett
Stan the Man
Pete Rose
G. Alexander
Steve Carlton
Pedro Martinez
Ernie Banks
Mariano Rivera

Would love to hear some feedback.

-MC

[This message was edited by MadCapper on July 24, 2003 at 02:48 PM.]

dimeplayersonly · Jul 22, 2003

nolan ryan needs to be fitted in

not much of a bases man myself, but cant argue with your list

dimeplayersonly · Jul 22, 2003

sorry NOLAN RYAN

RPM · Jul 22, 2003

i know im an oriole fan and all, but shouldnt brooks robinson and definetly EDDIE MURRAY be on that list???

dimeplayersonly · Jul 22, 2003

RPM..................home town boy....BROOKS ROBINSON...so is DIZZY and PAUL DEAN

RPM · Jul 22, 2003

wasnt murray one of 3 in baseball HISTORY to hit 3000 hits and 500 home runs?

dimeplayersonly · Jul 22, 2003

RPM.......... yes murray did hit over 500 hr, and over 3000 hits

MadCapper · Jul 23, 2003

RPM

You really think Murray belongs on that team over Gehrig or Foxx?

He is a 1B. There is no DH on this team.

Who would you replace for him?

SSI · Jul 23, 2003

shoeless joe jackson for one, im still looking at the list..

jateeluv · Jul 23, 2003

MADCapper, no reason for you to have an excuse for putting Rickey Henderson on the team. He is the best lead off man in history by far. Plus you need some speed on the team. He would be a permenant pinch runner and a great backup lead-off man behind Honus Wagner.

jateeluv · Jul 23, 2003

RPM? Although Eddie Murray did his 3000 hits and 500 Homeruns, and although he did that in an era where the balls weren't juiced and weight lifting was not HUGE in baseball, he did all of that with longevity and not explosiveness. He never had a season with gaudy, eye popping numbers. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve to be on an all-time team but definitely an all-time switch hitting team. He probably is the 2nd best switch hitter of all time right?

jateeluv · Jul 23, 2003

Brooks Robinson might be considered for an all time defensive team...but not an all-time all-time team.

5teamparlay · Jul 23, 2003

you want speed and OBP look up TY COBB HITS AND SB's 4189 Hits 892 SB's no need for rickey.

SSI · Jul 23, 2003

warren spahn has to be on the team,, no wins before the age of 26.. war service, and the alltime lefty winner with 363... he must be on the team..

HABSMAN · Jul 23, 2003

How bout an all- Baseball jackass team.

Mitch williams
gary carter
John kruk
daryl strawberry
steve "I love the groupies" garvey

MadCapper · Jul 23, 2003

jateeluv,

Thanx..I took alot into consideration for this team.

SSI,
Spahn was a finalist but didnt get over the humb for me. It was between him and Carlton as a LHS in September.

Batting order:
1. Wagner (SS)
2. Williams (LF)
3. Mays (CF)
4. Ruth (RF)
5. Gehrig (1B)
6. Schmidt (3B)
7. Hornsby (2B)
8. Bench (CA)
9. Pitcher (SP)

-MC

jateeluv · Jul 23, 2003

I can't believe Schmidt is generally considered the best Third baseman of all time...and bench to be the best catcher. Those positions seriously lack in quantity in terms of superstars. (maybe 2nd baseman too)

MadCapper · Jul 23, 2003

jatee...

3rd base is so shallow:
Schmidt
Brett
Mathews
Santo
Boggs
??????

Catcher a little less shallow.
Bench
Piazza
Berra
Fisk
Dickey
Pudge
Hartnett

2B: had three (maybe 4) of the All-time greatest players:
Hornsby
Lajoie
E.Collins
Morgan

Then its downhill:
Jackie Robinson
Gehringer
Sanberg
Alomar
????

I think SS is the shallowest position ever.

Journeyman · Jul 23, 2003

Did jateeluv really say that

, spoken like a guy who wasn`t around in the early 1980`s

Murray not only is the 2nd best switch hitter ever he`s the 2nd best first baseman ever...Ask anyone close to the game back then and he will be right at the top...True he never had the monster year he but was just very good for his whole entire career

... When the game was on the line he delivered, he didn`t play on alot of high run producing teams either and still ammased 1900 RBI`s the equvalent of about 2300 today...

Murray played in his prime in the dead ball 80`s and in big ball parks like Memorial Stadium , Dodger Stadium, when he played for the Mets there was no one on the team besides Strawberry who batted behind him....When he went to Cleveland late in his career , he was 2nd in avg before getting hurt, he was having a great yr at the age of 39.

Murrays numbers inflated to todays game would look like this..

625 HR easily, compared to 504 that he hit...

2300 rbi compared with the 1900+ rbi

.287 avg , jack that up to maybe .300

.
best hitter in baseball from 1979 -1985

vinividivinci · Jul 23, 2003

Without having a DH I think Piazza is a stretch, even for a late callup. A cinch for the all-time "switch-hitter" team, however. Well, switching might be questionable.

Going forward, seriously, I would have to find room for Josh Gibson, Shoeless Joe, Roberto Clemente and Jackie Robinson.

Don't know right off who I'd take down for the others but there are a number of catchers way better than Piazza (your team does have to play defense, right).

In any event, very interesting.

VVV