Free Speech? No, not if it upsets an Advertiser here

MrKennedy · May 28, 2003

another example today by S&G.. voiced his opinion , and reminded us of what happened to the last advertiser that got their own folder and had his threads deleted.. well I will remember this if bigbet turns out to be a stiff joint.. I will then KNOW how corrupt THESHRINK is.

This is a FORUM for GAMBLERS. but I guess there will be censorship when these books are paying for this operation..

BTJ ranted for several weeks about cascade..and although he was "suspended" none of the threads were deleted.. which makes this more confusing, as they pay to advertise here.. we all knew he was in the wrong, but it was allowed to stay..I thought because it was a forum for us to discuss our interactions with books.. maybe SHRINK is getting a % of post ups at big bet ?

nonetheless we will wait and see what happens at BBP

I hope I don't get banned for this...

RPM · May 28, 2003

kennedy

s&g was poster fred norris. he was attacking bigbet with lies and bullshit BECAUSE they are an advertiser here. not sure if you are familiar with him, but he is a nut case.

you should make sure you know what you are talking about before posting these accusations.

THE SHRINK · May 28, 2003

Mr. Kennedy,

The fact that we allowed someone to attack Cascade ad neauseum on this forum, even though they are an advertisor here, should tell you how much we permit FREE SPEECH...

Nearly every poster also knew that this guy was wrong in the dispute, too and Cascade didn't deserve it either...

To Cascade's credit, they NEVER once called me and asked for any thread to be deleted because the owner knew that his good name would eventually be cleared (which it was)...

It is unfortunate though that there are some who have nothing better to do than to take shots at us whenever they can...

You can choose to believe them or me...

The choice is yours, sir...

By the way, I would NEVER ban you for expressing something like what you did in this post...

I guess u don't trust me or my mods that well, and that's sad...

Hopefully, since trust takes time, you will have all your doubts taken care of...

Thanks,
Ken

IntuitionBET · May 28, 2003

Kennedy - That's a load of CRAP.

There is plenty of FREE speech in this forum.
If you have a claim against any sportsbook whether they advertise here or not post it here if it's legitimate, and have some evidence to back up your claim. No one's gonna BAN you.
Not all sportsbooks are perfect either.

The SHRINK does a great job in weeding out the bad books but he does not control the books and he CANNOT predict the future about a book even though some of you think he should be able to.

MrKennedy · May 28, 2003

You're right.. I do not know Fred Norris.. but maybe you can explain to me what he lied about in his thread.. was it not true that the last book to have their own folder turned out to be a stiff joint ? well I know that is a fact.

MrKennedy · May 28, 2003

and on a related topic.. I know you kick people out for attacking people and generating lies to hurt a books reputation..

but would you ban a poster who is known to try to scam other posters ? no matter how "popular" he is...?

I've read up on Mr Popular.. and I've seen 2 instances where he was attempting to scam, and another instance of where he took bets from a poster and stiffed him

is that good for the site ? or maybe his "storytelling" is so good you overlook the other crap.

OHLUCKYME · May 28, 2003

MR KENNEDY, GREAT QUESTIONS. JUST BE CAREFULL ON WHAT FLOATS AROUND AND WHO YOU KICK IT WITH.

STORYTELLING IS VERY COMMON HERE.

UncleButternutts · May 28, 2003

Who are you talking about?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>would you ban a poster who is known to try to scam other posters ? no matter how "popular" he is...?

I've read up on Mr Popular.. and I've seen 2 instances where he was attempting to scam, and another instance of where he took bets from a poster and stiffed him

is that good for the site ? or maybe his "storytelling" is so good you overlook the other crap. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i have a good idea, but, not certain..

MrKennedy · May 28, 2003

UB.. I gaurantee your gut instinct is right..

I'll leave a hint..

Don't stop..believing..hold on to that feeling..

RPM · May 28, 2003

mr. kennedy,

to be perfectly honest i dont even bother reading the lies and bullshit that fred posts anymore. as soon as i see it is him, i ban him and delete the posts.

he is worthless.

UncleButternutts · May 28, 2003

lol

Actually, i was wrong..

Halifax · May 28, 2003

"Don't stop..believing..hold on to that feeling.."
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I didn't know there was a poster called Steve Perry

assassin · May 28, 2003

Thanks H. I couldn't remember who sang that song. I might have even seen them in concert in the 70's. I know I saw Styx. YES in the Round, still the best.

Journeyman · May 28, 2003

Escape 1981

lander · May 28, 2003

Mr. K,
I think there is plenty of "free speech" here, regardless of advertiser relationships. There is less tolerence for slander & "beating a dead horse". As for slander, well, that's just not permitted for any book. And as for "beating a dead horse", even Ken hates to talk about getting stiffed 70 some dimes from SBG, so this hardly is a "protect the advertisers" thing.

I do see where you're coming from, but I wholeheartedly disagree.

truthteller · May 28, 2003

I have said before and will continue to say not to post up with books that are not in a regulated environment.

I have never being banned or have a post like this deleted. It should have since 99% of advertisers here are in countries with no regulation.

Banned4Life · May 28, 2003

No free speech? Tell that to Hammy the next time he starts a 100+ post thread detailing how an Rx advertiser saddled him with an extra 3 dollar parlay.

exilarch · May 28, 2003

Amen,truthteller. My sentiments exactly. I would even go so far as to close my account with Pinnacle,which I plan to do, because they are not regulated. Yes, I have heard how solid they are many, many times but that does not change the fact that they are not regulated. Besides I hate Pinnacle because they always beat me.In a regulated environment, the regulators are actually on the premises.No shenanigans are allowed, with these guys looking over the bookmaker's shoulder.

PO69 · May 28, 2003

I was actually one of the few people who actually read the thread in question about bigbetpoker.com . It was a pretty good thread actually, we are still waiting for bigbet to explain some things, but they choose not to do so!

I have a copy of that thread, but wont post it here now.

But in short, bigbetpoker posted that they WILL NOT ALLOW any talk of referral bonuses from people on this site since supposedly we found out about them from this site. It made this sound like total assholes to tell you the truth. Ask bucsfan about it, it sounded real bad!

jjgold · May 28, 2003

Kenny might actually be the first guy that invented free speech on the net. You should be honored to post here everyday.

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