Thats good and dandy, but what would you suggest to all the posters now??
Personally, I am still holding a WAIT AND SEE attitude............unless one feels the rewards outweigh the risk, which is not the case with me at this time.
PS- This is MY PERSONAL approach to this matter and does not reflect the feelings or thoughts of any employees at the RX ......or ANYBODY else for that matter.
Personally, I am still holding a WAIT AND SEE attitude............unless one feels the rewards outweigh the risk, which is not the case with me at this time.
PS- This is MY PERSONAL approach to this matter and does not reflect the feelings or thoughts of any employees at the RX ......or ANYBODY else for that matter.
It was about a month ago when I heard rumors about cascade. I have heard this before about cascade and always was paid after the fact so I never even asked for the 15 dimes that was owed to me. I even proceeded to lose 4 dimes so about ten days ago I asked for my money (11 dimes) because I was short at a certain out and Lenny couldn't pay me there. I then asked for my money on Tuesday basically anywhere(transfer/neteller) and Ken had called me the same day asking if I was owed and I said yes. So I guess I was "the player" but as always cascade paid me when asked and I was paid this morning in full.
I have had figures with cascade much, MUCH, MUCH higher and never even asked for the money for months at a time. This has worked both ways too. Lenny has helped me out at certain outs when HE DIDN'T EVEN OWE ME in the past.
I have not posted much about any books because I was duped at Panam and some of you guys want to place blame on me. Actually nobody puts food on my table except me so I don't give a fvck what anyone thinks about me. Trust me I have had a lot of good things I could have added to these forums but have not because of some of you guys. I am one of the original posters on this site and still come back from time to time. Their were some great posters that were run off and I wish just 10% of them would return. I know one thing there is not one person I know owed more money then me at betPanam so as usual I lost more then anyone I know.
Back to Cascade. I have always considered Cascade's Don best lines to be the strongest on the screen I have been slowly by slowly getting out of sports betting so I don't know if that is still the case. Lenny has been around eight years if that means anything.
I have a question? IS ANYONE OWED ANY MONEY FROM CASCADE THAT HAS ASKED FOR THEIR MONEY AND NOT BEEN PAID?
Once last thing, I know of about 100 dimes that Lenny has been stiffed out of by posters. Good bunch of guys until they come up lame.
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:02 PM.]
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:03 PM.]
I have had figures with cascade much, MUCH, MUCH higher and never even asked for the money for months at a time. This has worked both ways too. Lenny has helped me out at certain outs when HE DIDN'T EVEN OWE ME in the past.
I have not posted much about any books because I was duped at Panam and some of you guys want to place blame on me. Actually nobody puts food on my table except me so I don't give a fvck what anyone thinks about me. Trust me I have had a lot of good things I could have added to these forums but have not because of some of you guys. I am one of the original posters on this site and still come back from time to time. Their were some great posters that were run off and I wish just 10% of them would return. I know one thing there is not one person I know owed more money then me at betPanam so as usual I lost more then anyone I know.
Back to Cascade. I have always considered Cascade's Don best lines to be the strongest on the screen I have been slowly by slowly getting out of sports betting so I don't know if that is still the case. Lenny has been around eight years if that means anything.
I have a question? IS ANYONE OWED ANY MONEY FROM CASCADE THAT HAS ASKED FOR THEIR MONEY AND NOT BEEN PAID?
Once last thing, I know of about 100 dimes that Lenny has been stiffed out of by posters. Good bunch of guys until they come up lame.
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:02 PM.]
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:03 PM.]
'NUFF SAID!!!
Jake
very ewell put krackman. wish youd post more.
are you getting out of sports because of panam?
also, read a lot about royal, but they have always paid too. may not be ass stand up as leny, but they pay<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by krackman:
It was about a month ago when I heard rumors about cascade. I have heard this before about cascade and always was paid after the fact so I never even asked for the 15 dimes that was owed to me. I even proceeded to lose 4 dimes so about ten days ago I asked for my money (11 dimes) because I was short at a certain out and Lenny couldn't pay me there. I then asked for my money on Tuesday basically anywhere(transfer/neteller) and Ken had called me the same day asking if I was owed and I said yes. So I guess I was "the player" but as always cascade paid me when asked and I was paid this morning in full.
I have had figures with cascade much, MUCH, MUCH higher and never even asked for the money for months at a time. This has worked both ways too. Lenny has helped me out at certain outs when HE DIDN'T EVEN OWE ME in the past.
I have not posted much about any books because I was duped at Panam and some of you guys want to place blame on me. Actually nobody puts food on my table except me so I don't give a fvck what anyone thinks about me. Trust me I have had a lot of good things I could have added to these forums but have not because of some of you guys. I am one of the original posters on this site and still come back from time to time. Their were some great posters that were run off and I wish just 10% of them would return. I know one thing there is not one person I know owed more money then me at betPanam so as usual I lost more then anyone I know.
Back to Cascade. I have always considered Cascade's Don best lines to be the strongest on the screen I have been slowly by slowly getting out of sports betting so I don't know if that is still the case. Lenny has been around eight years if that means anything.
I have a question? IS ANYONE OWED ANY MONEY FROM CASCADE THAT HAS ASKED FOR THEIR MONEY AND NOT BEEN PAID?
Once last thing, I know of about 100 dimes that Lenny has been stiffed out of by posters. Good bunch of guys until they come up lame.
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:02 PM.]
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:03 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
are you getting out of sports because of panam?
also, read a lot about royal, but they have always paid too. may not be ass stand up as leny, but they pay<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by krackman:
It was about a month ago when I heard rumors about cascade. I have heard this before about cascade and always was paid after the fact so I never even asked for the 15 dimes that was owed to me. I even proceeded to lose 4 dimes so about ten days ago I asked for my money (11 dimes) because I was short at a certain out and Lenny couldn't pay me there. I then asked for my money on Tuesday basically anywhere(transfer/neteller) and Ken had called me the same day asking if I was owed and I said yes. So I guess I was "the player" but as always cascade paid me when asked and I was paid this morning in full.
I have had figures with cascade much, MUCH, MUCH higher and never even asked for the money for months at a time. This has worked both ways too. Lenny has helped me out at certain outs when HE DIDN'T EVEN OWE ME in the past.
I have not posted much about any books because I was duped at Panam and some of you guys want to place blame on me. Actually nobody puts food on my table except me so I don't give a fvck what anyone thinks about me. Trust me I have had a lot of good things I could have added to these forums but have not because of some of you guys. I am one of the original posters on this site and still come back from time to time. Their were some great posters that were run off and I wish just 10% of them would return. I know one thing there is not one person I know owed more money then me at betPanam so as usual I lost more then anyone I know.
Back to Cascade. I have always considered Cascade's Don best lines to be the strongest on the screen I have been slowly by slowly getting out of sports betting so I don't know if that is still the case. Lenny has been around eight years if that means anything.
I have a question? IS ANYONE OWED ANY MONEY FROM CASCADE THAT HAS ASKED FOR THEIR MONEY AND NOT BEEN PAID?
Once last thing, I know of about 100 dimes that Lenny has been stiffed out of by posters. Good bunch of guys until they come up lame.
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:02 PM.]
[This message was edited by krackman on June 25, 2004 at 05:03 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
BB- At one time I had 40+ post up accounts I know have five. BetPanam was the last straw for me as this is not worth my time or money for me. All the money I have EVER RECEIVED in bonuses in my lifetime cannot make up what has been stolen from me from these fvcking crooks.
Being fair though that is not the only reason. It is harder then ever to make money betting sports. Losing weak outs and the books do not offer what they used to as far as props and other "unique" types of wagers. Syndicate groups likes Walters, Koshers,and pokers do not move the lines like they used to therefore it doesn't allow for arbitrage like the old days. Now you have to take leads on games to create middles. I know guys that still find them but they work 10x harder then they used to and I feel my time can be used much more effectively on other things I do.
According to the Royal thread they sound as if they have a new gameplan. From what I was told the people behind Royal have a ton of money but have to be talked into putting it into the sportsbook. Speaking with Roberto in the past he has told me they will always pay.
Being fair though that is not the only reason. It is harder then ever to make money betting sports. Losing weak outs and the books do not offer what they used to as far as props and other "unique" types of wagers. Syndicate groups likes Walters, Koshers,and pokers do not move the lines like they used to therefore it doesn't allow for arbitrage like the old days. Now you have to take leads on games to create middles. I know guys that still find them but they work 10x harder then they used to and I feel my time can be used much more effectively on other things I do.
According to the Royal thread they sound as if they have a new gameplan. From what I was told the people behind Royal have a ton of money but have to be talked into putting it into the sportsbook. Speaking with Roberto in the past he has told me they will always pay.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
I think Royal just took a solid stance against wise guys. Not sure it was the best move the way it was handled, but I am hoping they come out of this situation strong as ever. I do believe the money is there as well.
Sincerely<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I should have used firm stance. Again, I am not sure it was correct, but the future of Royal is not dismal to me currently.
I think Royal just took a solid stance against wise guys. Not sure it was the best move the way it was handled, but I am hoping they come out of this situation strong as ever. I do believe the money is there as well.
Sincerely<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I should have used firm stance. Again, I am not sure it was correct, but the future of Royal is not dismal to me currently.
