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No sportbook links, thanks, wil.

[This message was edited by wilheim on June 22, 2004 at 01:53 AM.]

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I think SBR needs to call these guys and find out who they are and if anyone knows them. (hint, hint)

buzz,

are you not affiliated with SBR?

thsi was posted on gambling911.com

06.15.04 (8:18 pm ET) - SJO Costa Rica: The Legendary (and infamous) Rich Collins (Jaguar Sports, Apache) has opened a new sportsbook. A Sports911 scout just visited the place and found it highly guarded by armed guards. The name of the new place is VIP Betzone. More to come. Buyer beware.

[This message was edited by wilheim on June 22, 2004 at 01:55 AM.]

Thanks Tatiana

site looks like shit, but I am guessing they have more problems than that

I may call & speak to cx service & ask them a few questions...I will report who 'professional' they sound...

http://forum.therx.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=212105251

"The 25% is a large cash bonus. The roll over requirement is only 3x. They will give you this 25% on a 20k deposit yet claim to cater to recreational players. They say word of mouth is the key to their success (they also say they do not advertise on any sites) but as you noted, no one has heard of them. They are a 2 year old Costa Rican sportsbook. This site and its small business base would not suffer from stiffing a player. As I'm typing this, I pointed out a line that was off 30 cents to them. I would not touch this site. Soft and bad lines can be found everywhere."

That website has been up for less than two months, if they are "a dominant sportbook", they haven't been using that url to do it.

i visit http://www.vipbetzone.com


While browsing
http://www.vipbetzone.com

i got to
http://www.betosw.com

this site contains a message that says visit
http://www.oswbets.com

so i did, both sites looks the same, doing some research i found out a peculiar marriage between Daniel Wabe(BETCBS),Fernando Capponi and gomez, mauricio


http://www.oswbets.com


Registrant Contact:
IOL INTERNATIONAL
Fernando Capponi (ACERROVER@HOTMAIL.COM)
506-2914434
Fax: none
Bo La Granja De La Entrada Del Colegio
San Jose, N/A P1002
CR


www.betosw.com


Registrant:
Xeon Financial Ltd
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz

Domain name: BETOSW.COM

Administrative Contact:
Wabe, Daniel dave@betcbs.com
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz
506-281-0885 Fax: 877-848-6580

Technical Contact:
Wabe, Daniel dave@betcbs.com
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz
506-281-0885 Fax: 877-848-6580



Registration Service Provider:
HomepageUniverse,
+44.8457606128
+44.8457606128 (fax)
http://HomepageUniverse.com
HomepageUniverse may be contacted for domain login, DNS changes, and
all general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Oct-2003.
Record expires on 04-Aug-2005.
Record created on 04-Aug-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.010-101.COM 216.18.1.2
NS2.010-101.COM 64.69.77.73



Registrant:
vipbetzone
san jose
san jose, san jose 506
CR

Domain name: VIPBETZONE.COM

Administrative Contact:
gomez, mauricio maurogom@hotmail.com
san jose
san jose, san jose 506
CR
+506.8184040 Fax: +506.2330831

Technical Contact:
Domain, Direct
96 Mowat Avenue
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA
+1.4165350123 Fax: +1.4165312516



http://www.oswbets.com


Registrant Contact:
IOL INTERNATIONAL
Fernando Capponi (ACERROVER@HOTMAIL.COM)
506-2914434
Fax: none
Bo La Granja De La Entrada Del Colegio
San Jose, N/A P1002
CR


www.betosw.com


Registrant:
Xeon Financial Ltd
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz

Domain name: BETOSW.COM

Administrative Contact:
Wabe, Daniel dave@betcbs.com
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz
506-281-0885 Fax: 877-848-6580

Technical Contact:
Wabe, Daniel dave@betcbs.com
Offshore Experts
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, Na 00000
bz
506-281-0885 Fax: 877-848-6580



Registration Service Provider:
HomepageUniverse,
+44.8457606128
+44.8457606128 (fax)
http://HomepageUniverse.com
HomepageUniverse may be contacted for domain login, DNS changes, and
all general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Oct-2003.
Record expires on 04-Aug-2005.
Record created on 04-Aug-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.010-101.COM 216.18.1.2
NS2.010-101.COM 64.69.77.73



Registrant:
vipbetzone
san jose
san jose, san jose 506
CR

Domain name: VIPBETZONE.COM

Administrative Contact:
gomez, mauricio maurogom@hotmail.com
san jose
san jose, san jose 506
CR
+506.8184040 Fax: +506.2330831

Technical Contact:
Domain, Direct
96 Mowat Avenue
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA
+1.4165350123 Fax: +1.4165312516

Lakerfan,

That is correct. It should say 2 MONTHS. I need to edit my post.

Mauricio Gomez is one of the owners. Fernando is the manager for the post up operation. He has worked for Betlion and mmsports.

What about Daniel Wabe(BETCBS)???

Bill on their own site they say two years, so I figured that quote was referencing what they said. They very well might have been around for two years in some form, but that url has only been in use for two months if that.

By the way, your sections at SBR are very good. I have enjoyed looking through them. Your writeups on slowplay reports, provides the kind of info that a one line sentence can't provide. Good stuff, thanks.

me too ,i love your version of the "rumor hill"



/sarcastic

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>While browsing
http://www.vipbetzone.com

i got to
http://www.betosw.com
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How did you get from vip to this betosw.com? You are correct that betosw is a CBS hosted book.

3 team 6 point NFL teasers +200

hmmmmmmm.

LakerFan,

I appreciate the compliment especially in a thread where I was inaccurate.

I originally talked to their "post up" manager a few weeks ago. He told me the site has been live for 2 years as listed. Today he told me 5 mos and then I mentioned the domain reg and he agreed 2 mos may be accurate. I should have originally put that info in quotes.

Upon gathering the info posted by me above I had looked over their lines. The next MLB ML due to come off the board was off by 30 cents. There was another bad total line below that. I pointed out these lines and they were immediately reversed. There were also many soft lines offered.

I am scheduled to speak with Fernando tomorrow to discuss my initial assessment.

IMO, it would be doing them a big favor to deter the forum player.

lakerfan i was trying to log using Guest password GUEST then i got an error with the url of betosw

somehow one week ago players from both sites where part of the same database..

Bill far be it from me to tell you how to do your job but ask these kind of new CR books if anyone in the area will vouch for them or at least know them.

A good many times these are credit books trying their (slide of) hand at postup. And occasionally they are respected or know guys like Micky of CRIS or Big Joe of Hollywood. If they don't know anyone in CR and no one knows them, that usually means trouble.

Good work on the Apex story and the 5Dimes interview was a great read.

Buzzsaw,

Thanks.

Will do. From what we know thus far, they may eventually need backing. They state they have 5 yrs in the credit business. I would think if that is the case someone would know of these folks.

(Maybe he meant 5 mos )