Opinions on the BETROYAL group

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

As many of you know, BetRoyal banners were removed from the RX recently due to the fact they were having many documented slow pays.

As far as I know, despite the numerous SLOW pays, there has not been what would be considered a NO-PAY.

Have always enjoyed playing at the BETROYAL group in the past up until recently when these numerous slowpays were occurring.

What are some of your thoughts on the BETROYAL group now and more specifically........

How would you rate the safety of this book if one were to carry a balance there of $4,000+?

Thanks in advance

RoyalSportsCorp · Jun 22, 2004

If any player feels he is owed, please contact me at this time. My records indicate that there should be no outstanding payments at this time.
Fishhead, lets not go down this path. I am not interested in going back and forth with peoples agendas, ghosts, schills, and hearsay. We are doing fine, have been in this business for a long time, and will continue to do business as long as it is permissable through US law.

As stated above, if any player feels he is owed money at this time, please contact me. I will be here throughout the day,

Regards,

Richard Jones
1-800-818-1000 ext.1620

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

Richard,
Thanks for your response.

I am sorry to hear that you think I have some sort of agenda, which is totally untrue.

You cannot deny the fact that the ROYAL group has had numerous slow pays in the past recent weeks..........and this is a concern to me as a player who has posted up with you and is the reason I currently do not have funds posted up with you at this time.

I know these problems are true, because many have occured to my personal friends.

My question to you then is...........have you managed to straighten out all the problems that were associated with these slow-pays and are they a thing of the past now???

RoyalSportsCorp · Jun 22, 2004

As stated, we are current, and do not have a player who has not been paid.
I have watched what has transpired with V-wager, Bluegrass, and Cascade over the past few days, and I do not want to go down this path.

If anyone has a claim, he can contact me at 1-800-818-1000 ext. 1620, and it will be taken care of.

Like any other business, all legitamate books will do the things necessary to move forward wether in good or bad times. No business just opens and everything goes well and you never look back. All Industries have tough years. All businesses, and people alike have obstacles to overcome. You handle that, then move forward.

On our front, we will have plenty of positive news coming soon in regards to what we have to offer players. I am sure if you have visited the site, you can see that we are now offering product on par with world standard. We have also just opened lines on the first week of NFL.
That being said, our intentions and focus is on progress, and doing better business now and into the future.

Cheers,

Richard Jones
1-800-818-1000 ext.1620

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

Thanks again Richard for taking the time to respond.

Hope everything will continue to improve with your business as I would like nothing better than to be able to post up again with supreme confidence with your books in the next couple months or so.

Like I have stated many times in this forum, I have thoroughly enjoyed playing at www.lay107.com and would love to be playing there come football and hockey season.

THE SHRINK · Jun 22, 2004

Royal seems to be taking steps in the right direction.

The one thing that I cannot understand is their affiliation with a fledgling website wishing me dead in a plane crash, their exposing the full name of a sports book operator against his wish, and having their owner and right hand man shilling all over their flundering forum?

I believe this tarnishes Royal's image some...

THE SHRINK

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.

HateTheRiverCard · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fishhead.. in my opinion thats a pretty dumb comment. Using your reasoning then it can be said that you would never post up with Hollywood, is that correct?

EveryGamblersDream · Jun 22, 2004

How long do you guys work on these scripts in advance? The storylines are so predictable.

Royal: I'm glad you get your feelings out upfront in regards to the "possible" storyline. Hopefully it won't go down that avenue even though you seem like you wouldn't be surprised it did.

RoyalSportsCorp · Jun 22, 2004

Quite the contrary, we have tried to stay away from posting period. We will not win any favor here regardless of threads being positive or negative.
Shrink, we can just say that we are doing our best to do good business, and be good neighbors in this sometimes perilous Industry. The last thing we are going to do is post or schill etc. I have seen us dragged through way too much mud by SBR and their interests who can grade us F- for the rest of their lives if they wish to do so.

We have not responded to them at all. We wish you the best, you do a good deed for the players in the business and have applied a voice where there was none. I will be following the forum to help any players with Royal issues. Any other posts are not derivative of our current business. I do not need any schills saying how great we are anymore than I need negativity.

Shrink, We had a chance to speak on the phone with you as a moderator for one of our well documented problems. That call was nothing but professional. That is how it will continue to be, and how it will be towards yourself, or any client who contacts Royal Sports.

Regards,

Richard Jones
1-800-818-1000 ext. 1620

EveryGamblersDream · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who are these "many" others? Just curious but lets say 5 Dimes, Olympic, or Pinnacle were to join OGD, would you not play there either?

Please spare me the PR responses, a LEGITIMATE answer is the only one I'm looking for.

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by HateTheRiverCard:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fishhead.. in my opinion thats a pretty dumb comment. Using your reasoning then it can be said that you would never post up with Hollywood, is that correct?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt know that HOLLYWOOD was advertising at PEEPS place.

If they are, yes, this would be a concern of mine........most definetly.

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EveryGamblersDream:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who are these "many" others? Just curious but lets say 5 Dimes, Olympic, or Pinnacle were to join OGD, would you not play there either?

Please spare me the PR responses, a LEGITIMATE answer is the only one I'm looking for.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To answer your question 100% honestly, if ANY book were to advertise with Peeps currently, I would be very leary of them and would decrease my bankrool with any of them and recommend all others do so too.

HateTheRiverCard · Jun 22, 2004

FH... again... just my opinion but a comment like that just makes you seem as useless as the free space on a bingo card.

Your a Mod on a big webstie and a newbie may actually be fooled into thinking that a book like Hollywood is unsafe because they choose to have their banners on other sites. Obviously you and Peep don't see eye to eye and thats between you two, but to insinuate that a book may be shaky due to where they advertise is moronic to say the least.

Again just my opinion

HTRC

RoyalSportsCorp · Jun 22, 2004

I cannot base my relationships on others. My interaction with Peep has been both respectful and professional. For that reason, I give him the same respect in return. We participate in his protection program as a solid offer to the vast majority of clients who post in that amount or less. I would say that is the 90th percentile of players. Just working on expanding business with built in "safe" options for the players. Sending $1000 offshore is not a small decision for the majority of people in the world, we want to provide them a comfort zone to do so.

Cheers,

Richard Jones
1-800-818-1000 ext. 1620

EveryGamblersDream · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EveryGamblersDream:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Shrink- I totally concur......and as long as they are associated with Peeps, I will have to think twice about posting up again.

I know many others that feel the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who are these "many" others? Just curious but lets say 5 Dimes, Olympic, or Pinnacle were to join OGD, would you not play there either?

Please spare me the PR responses, a LEGITIMATE answer is the only one I'm looking for.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To answer your question 100% honestly, if ANY book were to advertise with Peeps currently, I would be very leary of them and would decrease my bankrool with any of them and recommend all others do so too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok this just proves my point. You are biased & can't stand on your own two feet. Somehow I can't picture you making this same comment if you weren't an employee of this site.

No offense but considering the high reputations an Olympic or Pinnacle have, your word about reducing balances because for example they advertisted on Peeps wouldn't really hold much weight.

Fishhead · Jun 22, 2004

Very respectful site...........GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

http://forum.offshoregamblersdigest.com/index.php?showtopic=20142

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Jun 22, 2004

I would take my money out of Royal, and put it in Hollywood. Best Wishes...OF

I already did.

MadCapper · Jun 22, 2004

This will turn into a MONSTER!

EveryGamblersDream · Jun 22, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Very respectful site...........GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

http://forum.offshoregamblersdigest.com/index.php?showtopic=20142<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

While I don't agree with the post from an obvious ghost, you really need better evidence then this.

One could look back lets say the last 3 years & see some of the bullshit agendas that has come from some members of this site. Why is it that gets a blind pass from you but everything else is as clear as day to you?

There are some people on this site I enjoy reading which is why I post here as well as a few other forums but the bullshit is reaching new highs almost daily.

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