I never thought there was a system for roulette until I seen a guy in Vegas constantly winning all night long. He was so far drunk that he kept falling off the chair he was supposed to be sitting on, bumping into people all over the place, scattering chips all over the table, and still trying to lay chips down when the dealer told him to stop. They kept switching dealers on him but nothing worked. I thought that I could find out how he was so successful since he was drunk and might offer some details, but unfortunately he was escorted out for being so intoxicated and belligerent. I blew the opportunity and still kick myself for that one....but I do believe there is a system and not just blind luck.
I Have read some of John Patricks stuff. He has a bunch of systems for roulette either numbers or outsides whatever. Again his stuff is for someone going to the casino for a few days trying not to get hammered and having some fun. I am sure some of the math guys and girls at this site have better numbers. I have tried some of his stuff and it sort of works. Basically the inside system is a series of numbersthat give you every other number on the wheel. the outside stuff is more of a money management type of thing.
First of all the best place to play roulette if you are in las vegas is the monte carlo as they have one of the green 0s off the wheel. With that said I dabbled with a system of picking any 6 numbers next to each other on the wheel and staying with those numbers as that covers close to 1/6 of the wheel. All numbers are played for the same wager value and increased at a predetermined amount until the ball lands in that 1/6 section of the wheel. Then start over again.
Also, if you have the patience you can catch more than 6 reds or blacks in a row very easily. I think most people play to go against the run but if you start with say just 10 dollars and take back your original 10 dollars when you win and let the 10 remaining dollars sit on a run of just 5 more reds or blacks you will have winnings of 320 at this point.
Also, if you have the patience you can catch more than 6 reds or blacks in a row very easily. I think most people play to go against the run but if you start with say just 10 dollars and take back your original 10 dollars when you win and let the 10 remaining dollars sit on a run of just 5 more reds or blacks you will have winnings of 320 at this point.
With an honest un-biased wheel there are no systems that can win long term even with single zero wheels. The vig is the same no matter where or what number or color you play. The Green Zeeros are the reason. Double zeros guarantee the hous approx. 5.25% vig per roll, a single zero wheel returns half of that. Roulette can be a fun game for recreational gambling especially for inexperieced casino players. Get comped, play small, and have fun. No way to make a living playing the wheel.
wil.
wil.
there is no system that beats roulette....consistently that is.
sure luck plays a part, but in the end you will lose, now not with a 5% disadvantage. you can almost cut it in half with single zero.
man, just learn BS on BJ and you will be better off.
you could find a bias wheel, although highly unlikely. most change the wheels now, they can develope a warp in them to favor a certain side of the wheel.
but this takes a lot of time. you have to chart each spin.
overall, roulette is the biggest scam in the casino other than the big six......but if you know what youre doing, this can even be profitable
sure luck plays a part, but in the end you will lose, now not with a 5% disadvantage. you can almost cut it in half with single zero.
man, just learn BS on BJ and you will be better off.
you could find a bias wheel, although highly unlikely. most change the wheels now, they can develope a warp in them to favor a certain side of the wheel.
but this takes a lot of time. you have to chart each spin.
overall, roulette is the biggest scam in the casino other than the big six......but if you know what youre doing, this can even be profitable
Stratosphere has a single zero table sitting RIGHT NEXT to a double zero table. It never ceases to amaze me that both tables are often filled.
Why on earth would you give up another 3% or so instead of walking 10 feet?
The BEST was at the Parisian when they first openened. They had the European style roulette. Very low vig.
Why on earth would you give up another 3% or so instead of walking 10 feet?
The BEST was at the Parisian when they first openened. They had the European style roulette. Very low vig.
roulette with a single zero has a house edge of 2.63% while a wheel with 2 zeros has a 5.26% house advantage. How the hell can you even beat that. It is mathematically impossible to overcome those odds.. IMPOSSIBLE... If you play regularly, you have NO CHANCE..
But how can you not love those losers that sit there with a pencil and the card and write down each number that came up in the last 2 hrs. Is this hilarious or what? Yeah, just because #32 came up 2 times in the last 20 min, means it won't come up again, FOR SURE. lol.. and yes, how about those guys that see on their cards that #11 has not come up in the last 47 spins, so that # is DEFINITELY due. lol..
Are these guys great or what? how can you not love those guys in the casino. Everytime I see them, I have to talk to them so I can be entertained, and i will ask them questions to pretend i think they are geniuses, and they actually believe me and have no idea i am mocking them..
Guys like these are such big losers, beleive it or not, even bigger of a loser than our own, Rob Funk.. They make Robbie boy look like a real winner.
But how can you not love those losers that sit there with a pencil and the card and write down each number that came up in the last 2 hrs. Is this hilarious or what? Yeah, just because #32 came up 2 times in the last 20 min, means it won't come up again, FOR SURE. lol.. and yes, how about those guys that see on their cards that #11 has not come up in the last 47 spins, so that # is DEFINITELY due. lol..
Are these guys great or what? how can you not love those guys in the casino. Everytime I see them, I have to talk to them so I can be entertained, and i will ask them questions to pretend i think they are geniuses, and they actually believe me and have no idea i am mocking them..
Guys like these are such big losers, beleive it or not, even bigger of a loser than our own, Rob Funk.. They make Robbie boy look like a real winner.
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Stratosphere has a single zero table sitting RIGHT NEXT to a double zero table. It never ceases to amaze me that both tables are often filled.
Why on earth would you give up another 3% or so instead of walking 10 feet?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bromo baby, i have always said the same thing.. I see this everyday, and it kills me when i see it. Last month I saw this man playing 100-500 a spin, and he was playing at the 2 zeros table. I told him, WTF are you doing here? Why ain't you playing at the single zero table? he tells me, what's the difference. He then proceeds to tell me that the odds of that extra zero coming up is very slim and that it won't even come into effect. lol
By playing here instead of there, it is costing him roughly 1,000 bucks an hr. So when this guy plays his 6 hrs a day, he costs himself an extra 6,000 dollars for not playing at the single zero table. Yeah, really makes no difference my ass. Most of these casino bettors have NO CLUE what is going on there.
Stratosphere has a single zero table sitting RIGHT NEXT to a double zero table. It never ceases to amaze me that both tables are often filled.
Why on earth would you give up another 3% or so instead of walking 10 feet?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bromo baby, i have always said the same thing.. I see this everyday, and it kills me when i see it. Last month I saw this man playing 100-500 a spin, and he was playing at the 2 zeros table. I told him, WTF are you doing here? Why ain't you playing at the single zero table? he tells me, what's the difference. He then proceeds to tell me that the odds of that extra zero coming up is very slim and that it won't even come into effect. lol
By playing here instead of there, it is costing him roughly 1,000 bucks an hr. So when this guy plays his 6 hrs a day, he costs himself an extra 6,000 dollars for not playing at the single zero table. Yeah, really makes no difference my ass. Most of these casino bettors have NO CLUE what is going on there.
Many years ago I knew a guy who used to clock the table. He would stand watching every spin of the wheel for about 2 hours (which he felt was the minimum amount of time needed to determine if there was any bias) and then if he felt a pattern was emerging he would sit down and play. If there was no pattern he would leave and go to another table or another hotel.
It takes a hell of a lot of patience to do this. But he told me that over the years he was using this system he felt that he was not a loser, but was slightly ahead. He said he would make a good hit when he found a table with definite strong bias. It happened about once out of twenty times, but it covered a lot of losses for him.
This was about 25-30 years ago. With today's technology I doubt if a biased wheel could be found anymore.
ESQAJM
It takes a hell of a lot of patience to do this. But he told me that over the years he was using this system he felt that he was not a loser, but was slightly ahead. He said he would make a good hit when he found a table with definite strong bias. It happened about once out of twenty times, but it covered a lot of losses for him.
This was about 25-30 years ago. With today's technology I doubt if a biased wheel could be found anymore.
ESQAJM
I notice there is a tendency to degrade the casual guy who goes to play roulette or something else and keeps records. Is it really any differane than counting cards in a 6 or 8tdeck blackjack game. Or those of you who trade the market we all look at charts and say well if this happened then this should happen or if the giants football covee the spread the last 4 times they dont figure to this time there is no corelation to any of this. if it was not for the casual guy having a good time and keeping records or not counting at blackjack there would be no las vegas and all the sharpies would be back in the boonies working in a mine or punching cattle or something like that. So why not lighten up and be thankful there are people around to pay for the casino so you have a place to go.
Dont forget you pros need us we have to bet the favorites and the overs so the lines go up and you guys can get a value bet:
) which may nor may not win but its value and if it loses then its a bad beat after all you guys are pros. give me a break. it must be the heat in the summer dont mean to be testy but squares or as john thompson says the joe the fans are neccessary, have a nice day all. bobk
Dont forget you pros need us we have to bet the favorites and the overs so the lines go up and you guys can get a value bet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bobk:
I notice there is a tendency to degrade the casual guy who goes to play roulette or something else and keeps records. Is it really any differane than counting cards in a 6 or 8tdeck blackjack game.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, it is much different!
I notice there is a tendency to degrade the casual guy who goes to play roulette or something else and keeps records. Is it really any differane than counting cards in a 6 or 8tdeck blackjack game.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, it is much different!
roulette has to be done on feel. of course there isnt a system. making a living at it isnt possible unless you are one of those brits who has the cool thingy with the gun that tracks the wheel speed and physics of the ball and tells you what group of numbers the ball will land on before the dealer announces "no more bets"
the bloody bastards clocked over 200,000 before they were caught using the device. an article had been posted about it not too long ago here at offshore. also ben and jerrys just isnt the same anymore. remember when it was so cool to eat that stuff? man. you just felt like you were somone special. is it just alltogther too mainstay, or does it just suck now?! im not quite sure. why they ever discontinued "cool britania" is beyond me. what is IDENDITYS favorite flavor? who knows. a bigger question is, how many hotdogs can sick scarf down in an hour. stuff like that it, makes one think. maybe vasco de gamma was on to something
the bloody bastards clocked over 200,000 before they were caught using the device. an article had been posted about it not too long ago here at offshore. also ben and jerrys just isnt the same anymore. remember when it was so cool to eat that stuff? man. you just felt like you were somone special. is it just alltogther too mainstay, or does it just suck now?! im not quite sure. why they ever discontinued "cool britania" is beyond me. what is IDENDITYS favorite flavor? who knows. a bigger question is, how many hotdogs can sick scarf down in an hour. stuff like that it, makes one think. maybe vasco de gamma was on to something
the guy counting cards properly will win in the long run the idiot playing roulette is flushing his money down the toilet
If you want to have fun fine, but there is no system that beats this game and anyone who knows anything about casino odds knows that anything written by Patrick is dogshit
If you want to have fun fine, but there is no system that beats this game and anyone who knows anything about casino odds knows that anything written by Patrick is dogshit
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>anyone who knows anything about casino odds knows that anything written by Patrick is dogshit <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I spoke to patrick about this. he is supposed to email me. in the meantime, please do not shill for dog shit until the matter gets resolved.
THE ROB
THE ROB
This was posted some time ago; cannot remember by whom but I will say that I hammered the hell out just to see what happened, and I made out very well. I'm sure variance would kill it in the long run, and I sure as hell do not have the patience to stand around a roulette wheel for hours anyway, but the system below has paid me on each occasion that I have tried it.
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I wait until one of the 3 sections (1st 12, 2nd 12, 3rd 12) or one of the 3 rows goes 10 consecutive spins without hitting. I then play that section progressivley until it hits. My bets would be: 5-5-7-12-18-27-41-62-94-142 (=10-5-4-7-7-7-8-9-9-13)
If it goes that far without hitting, I leave down -$413. If it hits anywhere in there i make between $4-$13. Yes..i could be risking $413 to win $4 lmao. But like i said I've never lost yet, everytime i do it i take what i win and put it in a "roulette" envelope. I've got about $900 in there right now, so they can beat me twice in a row before getting into my pocket. Like i said, its just for fun, wouldn't sit there and play it all day.
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Phaedrus
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I wait until one of the 3 sections (1st 12, 2nd 12, 3rd 12) or one of the 3 rows goes 10 consecutive spins without hitting. I then play that section progressivley until it hits. My bets would be: 5-5-7-12-18-27-41-62-94-142 (=10-5-4-7-7-7-8-9-9-13)
If it goes that far without hitting, I leave down -$413. If it hits anywhere in there i make between $4-$13. Yes..i could be risking $413 to win $4 lmao. But like i said I've never lost yet, everytime i do it i take what i win and put it in a "roulette" envelope. I've got about $900 in there right now, so they can beat me twice in a row before getting into my pocket. Like i said, its just for fun, wouldn't sit there and play it all day.
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Phaedrus
