Why are people asking if DC/Balt stadiums will be full?

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this isnt a very big market for baseball. having two teams here is a mistake in the longrun.
 

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Camden Yards Be Full Every Night If The Orioles Still Had Players Like Ripken, Palmeiro, Anderson, Surhoff, Mussina, Key And Erickson.
 

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We Are Discussing It Because The Orioles Dont Want The Expos In Washington Fearing The Loss Of Fans. I Say Both Teams Could Sell Out Tons Of Games If They Were Both Competitive.
 

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I Cant Remember When Angelos Bought The Team. What Year Was That? I Know They Moved To The Inner Harbor In 1992.
 

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Baltimore was a great baseball town...trust me , the fans this team had were as good as any, the new park and all it offered, and it being the original of the modern day parks was a big reason Camden was selling out 45k a night the first 4-5 years....The team wasnt any good really....Ever since Edward bennet Williams sold the team the owners have been awful...Seargent Shriver and then Peter Angelos are the two main reasons Baltimore no longer is a major league baseball town....

Its a disgrace...Angelos is hated by most baseball agents, for a long while the Orioles couldn't even get a top notch free agent to come play in their beautiful ball park in front of sold out stadiums.....why, because of the teams ownership was clueless....Finally, they have put the teams best interest in the hands of baseball people....

Angelos made mistake after mistake, I could go on and on....Albert Belle signing was the clincher....

Baseball was Baltimore's only game in town for years...the ravens have taken over as the city's team....

The Expos baseball team in D.C. we will see the attendance in Baltmore dip down to about 25k a game.... not much higher than it was back in the late 80's back at Memorial Stadium...
 

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I Could Be Wrong But I Thought Those Orioles Teams Back In 1992 & 1993 Were Competitive.
 
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yes. it used to be full, its not now it wont be with a new team in town this was stupid end of story. every city has great fans and park benchs without boogers and gum stuck underneath who gives a crap.

with the baltimore oriole business being so bad right now, this hurts their recovery chances and the washington wizards couldnt sell out the place with michael jordan playing for them unless the lakers were there and it was on NBC
 

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'95 and '96 competitive...the earlier teams were decent....Baltimore was a town use to its team finishing 1st or 2nd an no worse....always winning atleast 90 games....
 

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Journeyman Does That Fat Old Former Orioles Thrid Baseman Still Cook Barbecue On The Pavilion In The Outfield?
 

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You're referring to Orioles old 'first' baseman Boog Powell..lol Yes...Boog's Barbeque
 

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Yes it is. Sometimes I think they put it there on purpose. You can see the smoke from the pit and the smell comes across the stadium. lol
 

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the orioles were last truly competitive in 97 when they won the east going wire to wire.

in 96 they made the playoffs via the wildcard.

angelos hasnt been as bad an owner as most people think. he has spent a LOT of money on the orioles to try to make them a competitive and winning team. for several years, including LOSING years, the orioles have been among the highest payrolls in baseball.

say what you want about the owners, but angelos is better than having an owner that only shells out 30 or 40 million per year for payroll.
 

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He gutted the organization by spending on poor overpriced free agents...he made one bad choice after another bringing in over the hill players he ended up paying for long after they were gone....Of course he spent money RPM, the O's were doing so well at the gate, why wouldnt he? He was petty and couldnt take any criticism , he even ran Jon Miller out of town for being critical of the teams moves...'97 was the yr, the O's were a juggernaut, going wire to wire breaking the MLB HR Record...But, they collapsed late and somehow lost to a mediocre Indians team that had no pitching...Armando Benitez allowing two game winning home runs, one that turned the ALCS around...UGH..I didnt need to remember this tonight! Benitez was notorious for hanging a slider (which in turn speeds up the hitters bat) Tony Fernandez of all people sent Cleveland to the WS with a homer off Armando!
 

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actually the o's broke the home run record in 96...


angelos biggest mistake was losing the upper management we had back then....

pat gillick, davey johnson, pitching coach miller, (who just came back).
 

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RPM,

Since he took over

1. The team has become horrible
2. Upper level management has been destroyed
3. The Orioles Minor league system is one of the worst in basbell
4. The large number of season ticket holders are gone
5. Attendance has been atrocious
6. He has handled his own players when they have become free agents very poorly.

He is flat out the worst owner in sports.

It's also the little things. They used to have John Miller, one of the best radio voices in baseball calling games til Angleos ran him out of town.
 

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Yes correct...I said 95 96...I meant 96 97 ....I could list several Angelos blunders, but I will list one really good one that sums him up...

Raffy was in the last year of his contract, wanted to stay in Baltimore.....Angelos haggled with him all season offering him much less than market value, at the end of the year Palmeiro finally decided to take the Texas offer ,which was much was lower than Angelos' final offer....Palmeiro went on to have five more great years before returning...The O's love to bring back or sign big name players long after their prime , its another trade mark of the ownership...Albert Belle being the costliest move, paying Belle's enormous salary 3.5 years after Belle retired.
 

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