Montana is the best QB ever. You guys make me laugh when you bring up how so & so obviously did what they did because they had great players around them. Well if it was that cut & dry, how come other good or great QB's couldn't do the same when they had the same kind of players around them?
It isn't so cut & dry!!!
It isn't so cut & dry!!!
EveryGamblersDream said:
Who said that? No one knocked Montana here that I see...
John Unitas may be the best ever....47 straight games throwing a TD , back in the "hard to throw era"
....I love arguing with EGD, he never thinks he's been wrong in his life:think: ...you should be happy EGD, you get to kee Mike Martz for a few more weeks after tonight:manwh:
I Agree With Egd. How Do You Take Away From Montana What He Did For Years? He Was The Ultimate Winner. Big Deal He Had Good Players Around Him. Did It Ever Occur To You That It Was Montana That Made These Guys The Players They Are? I Guarantee You Montana Made Rice A Better Wr. And Brent Jones On Any Other Team Might Have Been Mediocre. Montana Got These Guys The Ball. No One Else. Period.
I don't feel like arguing.....I don't think Fish was taking anything away from Montana, just saying this Niners team would have trouble with anyone trying to lead them...QB's need surrounding talent, when Montana arrived out of Notre Dame, he wasn't an overnight sensation...With Craig, Rice, Taylor, Brent Jones, his life became much easier....
Montana was as great as any QB IMO...Some will always say he didn't have the cannon arm which takes away some, but I disagree, he didnt have the cannon, but he had the accuracy which was perhaps the best ever....I remember when he Montana outgunned Elway on MNF when Joe was with Kansas City, they went back and forth, and very late in the game Montana drove the Chiefs on a last minute drive, threw a perfect pass to the front corner of the endzone on a dime! to beat Denver and Elway....One of, if not the best MNF game ever!
Montana was as great as any QB IMO...Some will always say he didn't have the cannon arm which takes away some, but I disagree, he didnt have the cannon, but he had the accuracy which was perhaps the best ever....I remember when he Montana outgunned Elway on MNF when Joe was with Kansas City, they went back and forth, and very late in the game Montana drove the Chiefs on a last minute drive, threw a perfect pass to the front corner of the endzone on a dime! to beat Denver and Elway....One of, if not the best MNF game ever!
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Wasn't Montana in his late 30's when he threw that pass to a non superstar receiver against Denver? I don't even think the Chiefs had a good receiver when Montana played with them. They had an aging Marcus Allen who didn't play every down, but that was about it on offense. Montana didn't have all the physical characteristics but at least he had the brains many QB's didn't have. How about some of those stupid interceptions players made in their careers like Plummer, Testerverde, Warner, Brunell, Grbec etc. etc. the list goes on and on. Those passes into double coverage that leave you saying WTF?
Wasn't Montana in his late 30's when he threw that pass to a non superstar receiver against Denver? I don't even think the Chiefs had a good receiver when Montana played with them. They had an aging Marcus Allen who didn't play every down, but that was about it on offense. Montana didn't have all the physical characteristics but at least he had the brains many QB's didn't have. How about some of those stupid interceptions players made in their careers like Plummer, Testerverde, Warner, Brunell, Grbec etc. etc. the list goes on and on. Those passes into double coverage that leave you saying WTF?
Wide Receivers on the 1994 Chiefs ( not much actually) Joe was leading a nameless group!
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| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| J.J. Birden | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 48 637 13.3 4 |
| Willie Davis | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 51 822 16.1 5 |
| Lake Dawson | 12 | 3 24 8.0 0 | 37 537 14.5 2 |
| Danan Hughes | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 7 80 11.4 0 |
| Eric Martin | 10 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 21 307 14.6 1 |
| Chris Penn | 8 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 3 24 8.0 0 |
| Mike Young | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
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+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| J.J. Birden | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 48 637 13.3 4 |
| Willie Davis | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 51 822 16.1 5 |
| Lake Dawson | 12 | 3 24 8.0 0 | 37 537 14.5 2 |
| Danan Hughes | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 7 80 11.4 0 |
| Eric Martin | 10 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 21 307 14.6 1 |
| Chris Penn | 8 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 3 24 8.0 0 |
| Mike Young | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
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Happy 58TH JOE
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