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Lucky1 · Oct 8, 2004

I played at this place for a month and a half, lost $40 dimes !
I finally won $6900. ,the Runner Mark B. from ProPowerPicks.com, who lives in Conn., said his wife left him and took the kids , furniture and the safe.
I am an experienced Player with accounts on all DB sites and now I finally have heard everything.
Ken who is the owner of 4SportsPicks.com and ALSO owns PropowerPicks has refused to pay me.
I have all my paperwork and a recording of Ken saying that he owes me this.
Has anyone else have a problem with this place.
Beware.
The office is located in Pavas down the street from BetEagle.
Phone number 888-999-9894

michael777 · Oct 8, 2004

yes,i had big problems with them,lucky,i got my money out,STAW FAR AWAY FROM THEM!!!!!!!

trytrytry · Oct 9, 2004

I dont fully understand yor post.

What is the runner and his Wife involved in this story? where did you get info that a guy named Ken owned this place?

this is the place that Ewinner calls came from. they stole 10 grand from me.

SHAWN GOTTI · Oct 9, 2004

SORRY TO HEAR THIS. :mad:

:neenee:

Lucky1 · Oct 9, 2004

Hey "TryTryTry"

Thanks for your info. I definitely know that a guy named Ken owns this place. If he was involved with EWinner before than that is news to me. When places don't pay they have to move. This is what gives offshore a BAD NAME!
And as far as the runner goes- I'll tell you what he has to do with it.
This is the guy that Ken uses here in the US to collect and "pay"(even though he has never paid), his players. This guy has the nerve to call me and threaten legal action! Does he know what he is doing? hmmmm?
This "runner" has claimed that his wife left him and emptied the safe where my money was !!!!! This is a good one. My dog ate my homework.
I will not let this die. I will make sure that Ken pays me. I have recordings saying that he owes me the money.
When he pays , I will let all know that he has paid.

Lucky1 · Oct 9, 2004

4SportsPicks.com

Hey Michael777:
What was the secret to you getting your money out???????
You were actually paid????????

lakerfan · Oct 9, 2004

So you played at 4SportsPicks.com and didn't get paid when you won $6900? I am confused with your mentioning ProPowerPicks.com and what that has to do with this. I have no money with 4SportsPicks but I won with them in the past and they have always paid. Have you talked to Don?

Lucky1 · Oct 9, 2004

4Sportspicks=ProPowerPicks

Lakerfan:
I am really glad that you got paid. You didn't mention the amount, maybe you are a smaller player than I am. Neverless, I am glad that you got paid.
I will keep after "Don" until he pays me.
By the way- DON IS KEN !
This is not too hard to find out.
Ken owns www.PropowerPicks.com with bigtime advertisers like Pinny and he sells touts. He ALSO owns www.4SportsPicks.com where he books action somewhere in Pavas, CR. I am working on finding out exactly where.
I susbscribe to the notion that when you lose you pay and when you win you deserve to be PAID !
Call me oldfashioned- but these places that don't pay have got to be told that when we, the players, WIN- We want to be PAID!

Bismarck · Oct 9, 2004

I had noticed earlier that there was a cut and paste of this particular complaint at propowerpicks.com. It has mysteriously vanished. :toothless

lakerfan · Oct 9, 2004

Sorry to hear Lucky. I was paid out a similar amount to what you are owed now but it was paid over serveral months as I withdrew money as I won. Had no idea about the ProPowerPicks connection. Maybe The Generaly could contact Don/Ken and see what is up. If they still won't pay I will certainly join you in spreading the word about this.

TheGeneral+ · Oct 9, 2004

Lucky1,

I would be happy to call Don about this issue if you would like. You can email me the details at TheGeneral@therx.com .

Lucky1 · Oct 9, 2004

Bismark:
Yes, I joined the "forum" on Ken's www.Propowerpicks.com site and Ken has censored me !
There is no 1st amendment here-LOL !
Anyway, my next move will be waiting for the General to call me as I have already reached out to the Shrink.
I wonder what Pinny and the other advertisers think about advertising on such a site-hmmmmm. I have accounts at their sites also, and of course , I get always get paid there.
I will keep everybody apprised of the situation.
Lucky (or so far with these guys-UNLUCKY)

cantpickmynose · Oct 10, 2004

How ProPowerPicks is involved in this is beyond me. But I did call and find the problem.

Lucky opened a credit account and since lost a ton of money. He the called the sports book and asked to have accounts in opened up in his bothers name and was giving a 3000 bonus if his bother posted up front to cover his "credit" account. He was suppose to but never did. He placed bets with this credit account and won then wanted a withdrawal. After talking to Lucky1 friend we found that Lucky does not have a brother and it was him trying to rip off 4sportspicks for the bonus. His account was canceled. He was not to even use the account until he paid the up front money as he promised. He fucked around and got caught. Lucky tried to screw the book but the book figured out what he did and shut him down.

As far as all the other **** he talks about as to my wife this has nothing to do with Lucky as he is just talking that information off my site.

Minnow you can contact me and I will show you all the records and explain how lucky is a crazy old man.

trytrytry · Oct 10, 2004

cantpickmynose

interesting information, you seem to have tons of specific details on this.

what is your role at 4sportspicks.com? Are you Don?

cantpickmynose · Oct 10, 2004

By the way, I run Propowerpicks not Don. Ken is not Don.

cantpickmynose · Oct 10, 2004

General, you can contact me. Minnow know how to get a hold of me and I can explain the whole story to you. I will not come on the site and bash this guy. But this story is way out of line. If you are going to tell a story tell the truth, don't just tell parts of it to make yourself look right. Lucky needs to come clean and tell the whole story.

I will be on my site www.propowerpicks.com in the forum all day. Feel free to contact me when you can.

cantpickmynose · Oct 10, 2004

trytrytry,

No I am not Don, Don is one of my best advertisers.

I run and operate www.propowerpicks Forum.

I am the Mark B that this Lucky guy is referring to. What he says is NOT the truth and I would like the TRUTH to be known.

trytrytry · Oct 10, 2004

Don is a tout. he has told me such. Which Tout is he? Is he also the owner of 4sportspicks.com as well? The owners of 4sportspicks are Canadian I was told by another person at 4sportspicks. Don spends time away form the office in Canada. Is he the owner?

And does Don know who the people behind ewinner.com are? If he knows a name, email address or phone number I think he should post that info and let that information out. They stole much cash form me and some others as well.

Why honor privacy when you know they stole from customers.

As much as I appreciate the $300 free account at 4sportspicks its just a tip of the iceberg for me. ($300 free, no post up, 10X rollover and max payout of $600 on this).

I need to know more of where Ewinner guys went and who they are.

TheGeneral+ · Oct 10, 2004

I talked to lucky1 for a long while today and I will be getting with the other parties as well. Hopefully their wil be sufficient communication and cooperation to try and settle this matter properly.

cantpickmynose · Oct 10, 2004

trytrytry,

That I can't help you with. I know nothing of ewinner. 4sportspicks is my advertiser and they are the only ones I deal with.

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