What are you supposed to do with a 12 in BJ?

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What is the right thing to do?
Is it the same no matter what the dealer has?
 

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If the dealer is showing 3,4,5,6 stand. 7 thru Ace hit. With a 2 some say hit, some stand.
 

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Proper way to play the hand:
Dealer shows: 2,3, 7 thru Ace you hit.
Dealer shows: 4,5,6 you stay.
 

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Ha? Stay no matter what? lol, NO.

You have 12:
Dealer: 2,3,4,5,6
You STAY
Dealer:7,8,9,10,face
You HIT, till you hit 17 or better.
GL

You have 12:
Your on an incredible run, up thousands:
Dealer has 6
Double Down......... if you have a few Tini's in ya, on a huge roll, chics all around, couple K of casino money in front of ya,,,,then......DOUBLE that mofo.
 

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If it's 6,6 you should split against 2-6 I believe. Have to check reference.
 

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Superhero said:
Ha? Stay no matter what? lol, NO.

You have 12:
Dealer: 2,3,4,5,6
You STAY
Dealer:7,8,9,10,face
You HIT, till you hit 17 or better.
GL

You have 12:
Your on an incredible run, up thousands:
Dealer has 6
Double Down......... if you have a few Tini's in ya, on a huge roll, chics all around, couple K of casino money in front of ya,,,,then......DOUBLE that mofo.
:manwh:
 

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Sherman: Get at least one book on 21. Anything from ancient Thorpe to Revere, Patterson, Wong, etc, will provide basic strategy. There's hundreds of books available, most are decent, only a few have gross errors.

I'm sure you'll get reccomedations.
 

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I just hate to see the dealer have an ace showing! Well you know that he doesnt ahve 21, but he may draw to a 21. It just seems that the dealer NEVER busts on that ace!!


I usually like to take a hit on 17 against an ace showing! This of course depends on my active count of the cards at the moment, but a 17 is a losing proposition against an ace!!


If the count is there for you for a bunch of low cards left in the deck, taking that hit on 17 can be save you some money!
 

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if the next card is an 8 or a 9 double down. if its a 10 dont hit becuase that makes 22 and that's too many
 

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I don't think so. This could only work on a single ( maybe double-deck) with penetration you would never find. I think this is a losing strategy. Hard 17 loses against ace. You have a bad hand ( but there are far worse) ! I think , long-term... standing is preferable.

To work this would need a game you couldn't find, in a casino.

I'm rusty on Blackjack, but don't buy this theory, unless deck(s) are dealt to the end. It won't work online, and Sherman seems to like on-line casinos.

Just my opinion, but I don't like this deviation.
 

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I made 75 dimes at the oldAtlantis in A.C. years ago and I doubled down on 12 at least a dozen times and won on 10 of 12. I double down on 12 if a dealer has a 3, 4, or 5, not on a 6 cause of that ******* ace that gives 17.
 

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I always wondered why the casinos make so much money on BJ, now I know why
 

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HateTheRiverCard said:
Yep.. If I was a Casino manager i'd hire a few of these guys as "COOLERS"
Are "Coolers" guys sent in by the casino to cool off a table?

Do they actually exist?

I was in Vegas earlier this year with a few buddies and we were CRUSHING the casino. Not literally, but we were on a good run that got the notice of the pit. Next thing we know a guy talks to the pit, sits down signs a marker and starts making strange plays (not basic strategy and certainly not counting cards). While his plays have nothing to do with the probability of us winning hands we (5) ALL left the table at the same time after deciding after less than 10 hands that something wasn't right (either the player or the vibe). The pit and the guy asked us why we were leaving so we all laughed and kept moving. We always thought the player was affiliated with the casino in some way.
 

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I think they are, Gamblers by nature are superstitous. They can be thrown off there game easily at times. How many times have you heard someone complain about dealers being changed when the players are on a run of good luck. I seriously doubt you'd see them at a low stakes table but personally I think they are still used to some extent.
 

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