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The Pats an 11 point favorite look like cinches to go to 12-1 this weekend. Not so fast the Bengals who dismantled the Pats 31-3 in preseason (August 21st) will be no pushovers and Pats coach Bill Beilichik knows it. The Patriots and Bengals are Nos. 1 and 2 in the NFL in points off turnovers. New England has scored 102 and the Bengals 97. The Bengals are 14-14 in their past 28 games under coach Marvin Lewis. In the previous 28 games, they had a 6-22 record. This is a new and improved (vastly) Bengal team. Where the 11 points are coming from is a mystery to me. I will not be surprised to see the Bengals win the game.

I don't want this to come off like a pick thread I am just saying this game is no gimme for the Pats. Do I expect the Pats to have a Raven like meltdown if they get a lead - no. I just hope they get a lead in the 4th quarter and win by any score.


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when im working, ill go over the games in my head, and i was thinking the same thing.
 

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FOXBORO, Mass. (AP) Corey Dillon learned coach Bill Belichick's system quickly hit the open holes and keep your mouth shut.



The New England Patriots star running back politely declined to talk about facing the team he was happy to leave, the Cincinnati Bengals. Teammates who did speak about his attitude toward Sunday's game didn't say much more.

''I have no idea. Go up and ask him,'' tight end Christian Fauria said. ''I'm sure he'll give you a great answer, probably a company answer.''

Belichick, the head of the company, doesn't like his players to focus on individual issues like Dillon vs. Cincinnati. They follow his advice off and on the field and can clinch a playoff berth by beating the Bengals. They also can wrap up the AFC East title with a win and a loss by the New York Jets to Pittsburgh.

But Belichick can't control the Bengals' comments, and wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh knows it's not just another game for Dillon, one of his closest friends when they were teammates.

''I know he's excited to play, just from talking to him'' after last Sunday's games, Houshmandzadeh said. ''He wanted out of here but he felt like they got rid of him.''

The Patriots are 11-1 and Dillon has been a major part of their success since spending seven seasons in Cincinnati where he often was at odds with management.

''I failed to win Corey over, to be totally committed to being a Cincinnati Bengal. That's my fault. Other than that, I have no regrets,'' Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said. ''Corey is there now and let's leave it at that.''

Dillon is fourth in the NFL with 1,221 yards rushing and probably will break his season-high of 1,435 in 2000, a Bengals team record. But they don't miss him because Rudi Johnson has rushed for 1,105 yards and can break Dillon's team mark.

With the second-round draft pick it obtained for Dillon, Cincinnati picked up free safety Madieu Williams, who is their fourth leading tackler and has three interceptions.

''He has been tremendous,'' Lewis said. ''It was a great deal for both teams.''

The Bengals (6-6) are back in the playoff race after winning four of their last five games. Last Sunday, they rallied from a 20-3 deficit after three quarters for a 27-26 win at Baltimore.

''It will give us a little boost this week going into this game, giving us some confidence going up against one of the top teams in the league,'' quarterback Carson Palmer said.

Belichick has reminded his players that they lost to the Bengals 31-3 this year in a preseason game.

''We all remember it very well. They really gave it to us last time,'' tight end Daniel Graham said. ''We try to win all our games, preseason or not.''

But Palmer doesn't think that matters because both teams have changed since then.

''I think coach Belichick is really just using that as a motivational thing,'' Palmer said. ''You have to find something when you have won 17 (straight) games at home and won so many games over the past couple of years.''

Belichick also has emphasized the Bengals' ability to force fumbles, 31 so far this year.

''A lot of times the ball just doesn't land on the ground,'' he said. ''They pull it out and it flies 10, 15 yards away from the runner. They are very aware of it and they do a good job.''

They also make big passing plays with receivers Chad Johnson and Houshmandzadeh. Starting Patriots cornerbacks Ty Law and Tyrone Poole are both expected to remain sidelined.

''These guys make big plays in every game,'' Belichick said. ''It's no one-game wonder. (Kelley) Washington, you need to throw him right in there too, because he makes a lot of plays.''

But the Patriots have scored first in their last 17 games and have won 26 of their last 27. The Super Bowl champs even can clinch a playoff berth with a loss if Baltimore or Denver loses or Pittsburgh beats the Jets.

Reaching the postseason would be a first for Dillon, whose best record with Cincinnati was 8-8. He complained about his lack of carries last season but, since the trade, has stressed that winning games is more important.

In last Sunday's 42-15 win at Cleveland he rushed for 100 yards, the seventh time he's had at least 100 in his last eight games. Afterward, he made it clear he would not be talking about facing his old team.

''No Cincinnati questions,'' Dillon said. ''I'm not worried about that. It is what it is.''

For Cincinnati, it's simply about stopping one of the NFL's best runners.

'' We know what style of runner he is,'' Bengals safety Kevin Kaesviharn said. ''. We know what we're getting into with him. I think it's to our advantage that we know him so well.''

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Those orange turds gave up 40+ pts to the poop-stain Browns. Do you really think they can stop Brady an Co.??

C'mmon,
This is like Bill Gates worrying if he can foot a dinner bill.
 

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lander said:
Wil,
Those orange turds gave up 40+ pts to the poop-stain Browns. Do you really think they can stop Brady an Co.??

C'mmon,
This is like Bill Gates worrying if he can foot a dinner bill.

Typical square comment.
 

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We all think New Engl is a good team but not a great team, Brady just wins though at an unreal clip

He wins this year he goes down as greatest QB ever with no debate period
 

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Typical square comment.
Right, and yours was a typical dumba*s comment.

Should I "play sharpie" like you and say I love every under and every dog?
 

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"Square" and "Sharp" are way overused on this site. Just because I like one side, doesn't necessarily make me one or the other. Pats roll Cincy tomorrow. I guess I'm a square.
 

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I am not a sharpie but anyone with common sense would know this is not a gimme game for the Patriots.

Oh then again I am conversing with someone that if he had an IQ 2 points higher, he'd be a rock.
 

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truthteller said:
I am not a sharpie but anyone with common sense would know this is not a gimme game for the Patriots.

Oh then again I am conversing with someone that if he had an IQ 2 points higher, he'd be a rock.
Actually Mr. IQ, conservation is spoken.
Perhaps you are posting dumb threads and talking to yourself simultaneously?
 

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Yeah I am saying to myself you are just another forum junkie suffering from diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the mind.
 

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could the Bungles do it?? im a HUGE bengal fan this sunday!!!:party: :suomi:



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Sorry to see the thread get hijacked (not taking sides). Moving to RR unless we can get back on topic.

Bosox I hope you are right, I just have a feeling this will be a hard fought game and 11 points is a bargain. Actually a Pats win would be very good for the Bills if they can keep winning. One wild card spot up for grabs both Bengals and Bills along with Jags, and Ravens in the hunt for it.


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FISHEAD Goes to see Bigbet for a bengal game..sorry guys had to post this pic of you to:suomi:


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Pats hang on for 35-28 win but no cover. Carson Palmer injured in 3rd qtr. Jon Kitna finished up for a game Bengal squad. Big Big Big game for Bengals in Cincinnati against the resurgent Buffalo Bills with wild card implications..



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jjgold said:
We all think New Engl is a good team but not a great team, Brady just wins though at an unreal clip

He wins this year he goes down as greatest QB ever with no debate period
Patriots win the SB this year and he goes down as the greatest QB ever with no debate? Well then you'll excuse me for debating.....how do u figure that JJ?
 

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hopefully you'll respond and not be offended by my avatar....
 

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