I've taken plenty of w'd from mansion never a problem. If I feel my balance is getting to high I w/d and its all free through Neteller and there no stupid rules like one free w/d a day, you can make as many free w/d as you want. I'll take my chances with them, so far no problems and I can tell you they take a decent size bet,online at -05 and its confiirmed immediately, no delay, no bullshit. I don't blame any of you for being cautious, but thats my experience with them so far.