Blackjack, Card Counting Documentary

Search

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
335
Tokens
Just got back from a fascinating presentation at school. They presented a documentary, "The Hot Shoe", about card counting and card counting teams in blackjack, followed by a discussion by the director and several members of the MIT card counting team.

It was an amazing look, not only at card counting systems, but also the inner workings of these teams that go into casinos and try to avoid detection. I basically took three things away from the movie and talk:

1. Blackjack is absolutely beatable if you teach yourself to count cards and can find a game with few decks and good penetration into the deck
2. Good, if not perfect, play is essential. One of the MIT card counters said that a single serious mistake every 100 hands wipes out your advantage.
3. The hardest part of all is to avoid detection with casinos sharing information and griffen investigations monitoring the patrons etc....

The guy who made the movie taught himself to count cards and went to Vegas with a $5000 bankroll (his music budget for the movie) and tried his luck. He had a $25 base bet, with an 8 bet spread. He was down as much as half his bankroll, but ended up $1000 ahead after 10 days. What a fukkin grind that was and he looked like a walking corpse at the end.

Anyway, it seems like too much effort for the potential profit, but really interesting. The only way to go would be an organized team where you can pool resources and more easily avoid detection.
 

New member
Joined
Jul 20, 2002
Messages
75,154
Tokens
The hardest part of all is to avoid detection

That is the most serious drawback today. Especially for teams. A sharp counter working alone who is not greedy can actually do OK. You have to pick your spots plus be an expert at everything else that goes into it.

Back in the 50's thru the late 70's a good counter could make an easy living if he or she didn't get to greedy and become a face known for counting.


Today the casino counter measures make counting cards nearly not worth the effort. Only the very best have any success.



wil.
 

New member
Joined
Dec 29, 2004
Messages
1,713
Tokens
At one time is was great, but they use too many decks of cards these days.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
335
Tokens
Yeah, lots of crazy stories about counters getting arrested/beaten down when they are caught. Card counting is not illegal in Nevada, but one of the MIT guys has been arrested 3 times or something, but never charged..... basically police protect the casinos and do whatever they want - just trying to scare people I guess.
 

New member
Joined
Dec 29, 2004
Messages
1,713
Tokens
whenever you counting you like under the gun or 3rd base better.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,108,529
Messages
13,452,326
Members
99,420
Latest member
Garryter12
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com