Congratulations Roberto for finally getting people paid from BetPanam

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At least that's what our beloved Roberto has told you. And he is as honorable
and as trustworthy as they come. Right? Hope you guys are starting to catch on to this and how it works. If not don't worry Frankie5angels will be here to explain it to you. You probably have noticed a little different swing of things recently from Mr. Roberto. He has blamed everyone this week for the departure of funds at BetPanam. All clearly to take the focus off the fact that no one has been paid. He has become the Geraldo Rivera of the offshore world.

This is really comical to watch for someone who has enough smarts to see through the BS. What I want to know is this. Why isn't the blame being put on the investors and the Panamanian government? They were the ones who asked for a secured bond gave the license. They are the ones who keep releasing the statements through Roberto that people are getting paid soon. Why aren't we able to see those stories now? To me its obvious, Roberto has partnered up with them. He has decided to play both sides. If Panama pays he writes they are the greatest country for sports gambling and protect the players. Plus he may even be getting paid for the press now. Who knows? And if they do pay he is gonna get his 20% of lost funds retrieved. Nice guy huh? This is the guy who people are following. Win or lose he is setting himself up to get paid. The whole time innocent victims who posted their money are still not getting paid.

If you notice he has started going after bigger fish. Just in the past month or so I have noticed him posting about Pinnacle and Mansion. This is to get clicks to his site. Nothing more and nothing less. I read the one about the Pinnacle casino. How can this guy even claim to have run a sportsbook? I am not sure but didn't Royal have a casino when he was there? He reminded me
of the drunk guy in the casino, bitter after a loss at the table claiming the game was fixed. How does the guy know? Well, that's just it, he doesn't. But he remembers the dealer having a few to many face cards. And he thinks it's rigged so therefore it’s rigged in his book. So let’s post it as fact and then write a story. Why not? It will clearly take the heat off the fact that no in Panama got paid. Funny, when I asked for my log of Blackjack plays at the same casino they were sent to me within a hour or so. But then again I didn’t get into it with the casino manager and threaten a story. Not saying this is what happened but you are starting to see my point. Let me ask you a question? Do we know Roberto actually knows how to play Blackjack properly. Many claim it but when you actually sit beside them and watch them hit on 17 and double down on 8’s against 10’s well then you know the truth.

Now let’s see what he posted about Mansion. I read that story as well.
Funny how Roberto the owner of a very small site gets access to financial records that no one else has access to. How is it that he is able to get them? Well,the truth is he can’t. But that doesn’t keep him from writing a story. Clearly win or lose I am sure this caused quite a run on the bank at Mansion. I don’t recall any slow pays so what does that tell me about that company. As strong as they get. I am actually gonna double up my account there. Why not? Roberto posted it being shaky. Look at his record. I am thinking the opposite and it has to be one of the strongest out there. I tend to believe the opposite of what he post. Sorry! that’s just me.

Now he promised to walk away from the forums. And he promised to quit posting about Panama. But yet we still see it daily from him. I even see he got our beloved Shrink involved. Shrink do us a favor. Wake up! You don’t need this clown pumping you up. Block him from your messengers and stop taking the phone calls. He is using you to help him build his site. Roberto praising you and dealing with you is like a junior high basketball player giving Michael Jordan advice. Seriously, it’s that lopsided. That article yesterday was a bunch off asskissing to once again get support because as we can now tell today. No one is getting paid again. The 21st the day he swore would be payday. So Roberto you agreed to walk away now pay up. Its come and gone. You can’t use this to build your site anymore. All we are asking is do for once what you have promised to do. And walk away.We are all gamblers here. When you win you get paid when you lose pay up. These were the terms you accepted. Now accept them.
 
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Frankie- I am not all that familiar w/ the whole saga, but what did he do wrong? Was he sending players there? I was under the impression that he was just trying to help people get paid.
 

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Ace, lucky for you that you haven't been following it. He wasn't helping nobody but himself. Actually misrepresenting himself. He hasn't gotten anyone paid and yet he still preaches it daily. A full fledged con artist, He agreed to walk away the after the 11th, he swore people would get paid by this time or he would leave the forums forever.
 
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Frankie- Was he charging people? Was he going to get a cut? My question is how is he benefiting from misleading people?
 

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Yes, he was charging people. And then he went and tried to partner up with the Gaming commisioner in Panama. So he was playing both sides. One week they are thieves the next week they are trying as hard as they can to fix it. That is the type of articles he was writing. The main thing is no one involved is any good until people get paid. That's the bottom line.
 

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would some players actually pay ROBERTO a fee to try to get their money back, which would never be returned and ROBERTO would get the money? so long as roberto is diligently pursuing players' money, i see no problem getting paid for the work.
 
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Frankie5angels said:
Yes, he was charging people. And then he went and tried to partner up with the Gaming commisioner in Panama. So he was playing both sides. One week they are thieves the next week they are trying as hard as they can to fix it. That is the type of articles he was writing. The main thing is no one involved is any good until people get paid. That's the bottom line.
Frankie- Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me as I was unaware that he was charging. I am just thankful I did not get burned in the whole ordeal. I do hold out hope that all players can find a way to get some of the lost funds back, but I guess it is not looking very likely.
 

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Ace, Just trying to protect people who have already been burned. Its bad enough they loose their money but getting hit on by a two bit con artist like this is crazy. Someone had to speak up and try and protect people. I also hope people get paid. But I don't like to see people profit off of misery.
 

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Identity those in the know have known for a long time now no one was getting paid. He has used this to launch that site of his..Once again profiting off of others losses, then he comes in and plays both sides to make sure he gets paid..typical con artist mentality.
 

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he is.

I am pretty sure that he is not charging anything in advance!
 

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10%-20% whatever! This was over a long time ago and he has been using it to launch his website. Time to move on.... When people actually get paid, then post. Until then the constant reminder is unnessasary.
 

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I might be mistaking but where you not the one who started this tread?

I suggest you get you facts right before you are attacking anyone. Rob did not charge anything in advance (at least not from me!)
 

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Thanks for the post Sheva. You must have been one of the lucky ones back 7-8 months ago who got that last little bit they sent out. Good for you! Roberto did indeed ask for a fee for funds retrieved. My facts are straight. I am here to make sure no one gets mislead by this con artist. He has worked out deals with both players who are owed and the Gaming commissions in Panama. You gotta choose, you cant play both sides. At least not on these forums where players who deposited didnt get paid. Like I said before..Until everyone gets paid no one in Panama is any good. Bottom line, pay or go away! I dont need to see it publicized for personal gain especially given the facts.
 

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I have not been paid anything from those bastards at BetPanam.

All I know is that Roberto hasen´t asked me for anything yet. He will get his 10% (with a smile) when/if I get paid. My point is that he is not charging anything in advance!
He is our only hope down there...
 

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Frankie5angels said:
Thanks for the post Sheva. You must have been one of the lucky ones back 7-8 months ago who got that last little bit they sent out. Good for you! Roberto did indeed ask for a fee for funds retrieved. My facts are straight. I am here to make sure no one gets mislead by this con artist. He has worked out deals with both players who are owed and the Gaming commissions in Panama. You gotta choose, you cant play both sides. At least not on these forums where players who deposited didnt get paid. Like I said before..Until everyone gets paid no one in Panama is any good. Bottom line, pay or go away! I dont need to see it publicized for personal gain especially given the facts.

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I think he did more than anybody else.
 

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I'm not seeing all these constant reminders, sorry. Maybe an article or two at HIS website, which has been up for awhile.
 

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Thanks for posting 350z. I guess since you said "WE" got paid at least one person you are either Roberto or with Roberto. The purpose of this thread was Roberto agreed back in December that if no one else was paid by the 11th of February he would walk away from the forums. All I am asking is pay up. He then said February 21st was the date. That has also come and gone. Once again false hopes were crushed. I just don't like to see people use a bad situation to gain anything off of it. But thanks in your 3 post to point out I don't need to read the articles if I don't want. People sometimes crack me up. This is one of those times.
 

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