The Story of the Ponzi Scheme... does this relate to offshore books? ;)

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Carlo “Charles” Ponzi was born in Parma, Italy 1882 and then emigrated to the United States in November of 1903. Over the next fourteen years, Ponzi wandered from city to city and from job to job. He worked as a dishwasher, waiter, store clerk, and even as an Italian interpreter. In 1917, he settled back into Boston where he took a job typing and answering foreign mail. It was here in Boston on that fateful day in August of 1919 that Ponzi discovered the mechanism to make both him and his investors very wealthy.

At the time, Ponzi was considering issuing an export magazine. He had written a letter about the proposed publication to a gentleman in Spain, and when Ponzi received his reply, the man had included an international postal reply coupon. The idea behind this enclosure was quite simple. Ponzi was to take the coupon to his local post office and exchange it for American postage stamps. He would then use those American stamps to send the magazine to Spain.

Ponzi noticed that the postal coupon had been purchased in Spain for about one cent in American
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funds. Yet, when he cashed it in, he was able to get six American one-cent stamps. Just think of the possibilities if you could do this. You could buy $100 worth of stamps in Spain and then cash them in for $600 worth of stamps in the United States. Then cash in or sell the stamps to a third party and you have, well, good old cash. You just can’t get this kind of interest in the bank.

Ponzi’s mind quickly went into overdrive and devised a clever scheme to capitalize on his idea. He was determined to be a rich man. His first step was to convert his American money into Italian lire (or any other currency where the exchange rate was favorable). Ponzi’s foreign agents would then use these funds to purchase international postal coupons in countries with weak economies. The stamp coupons were then exchanged back into a favorable foreign currency and finally back into American funds. He claimed that his net profit on all these transactions was in excess of 400%.

Was he really able to do this? The answer is a definite no. The red tape of dealing with the various postal organizations, coupled with the long delays in transferring currency, ate away at all Ponzi’s imagined profits.

Things got just a bit out of hand…

A failed scheme couldn’t keep Ponzi from bragging about his great idea. Friends and family members easily understood what he was saying and they wanted in on the investment. And, lets face it, if you flash money in someone’s face, they are bound to take it.

On December 26, 1919, Ponzi filed an application with the city clerk establishing his business as The Security Exchange Company. He promised 50% interest in ninety days and the world wanted in on it. Yet, he claimed to be able to deliver on his promise in just forty-five days. This, of course, translates into being able to double your money in just ninety days.

Word spread very quickly about Ponzi’s great idea and within a few short months the lines outside the door of his School Street office began to grow. Thousands of people purchased Ponzi promissory notes at values ranging from $10 to $50,000. The average investment was estimated to be about $300. (That was a big chunk of pocket change in those days.)

You are probably sitting there puzzled. Why would so many people invest in a scheme that didn’t work? The real reason was that the early investors did see the great returns on their money. Ponzi used the money from later investors to pay off his earlier obligations. It was a new twist on the age-old pyramid scheme.

With an estimated income of $1,000,000 per week at the height of his scheme, his newly hired staff couldn’t take the money in fast enough. They were literally filling all of the desk drawers, wastepaper baskets, and closets in the office with investor’s cash. Branch offices opened and copycat schemes popped up across New England.

By the summer of 1920, Ponzi had taken in millions and started living the life of a very rich man. Ponzi dressed in the finest of suits, had dozens of gold-handled canes, showered his wife in fine jewels, and purchased a twenty-room Lexington mansion.

The Crash

Any get rich scheme is certain to attract the attention of the law, and Ponzi was no exception. From the start, federal, state, and local authorities investigated him. Yet, no one could pin Ponzi with a single charge of wrongdoing. Ponzi had managed to pay off all of his notes in the promised forty-five days and, since everyone was happy to get their earnings, not a single complaint had ever been filed.

On July 26, 1920, Ponzi’s house of cards began to collapse. The Boston Post headlined a story on the front page questioning the legitimacy of Ponzi’s scheme. Later that day, the District somehow convinced to suspend taking in new investments until an auditor examined his books. (Why anyone who was doing something so highly illegal would let auditors examine his books is beyond me.)

Within hours, crowds of people lined up outside Ponzi’s door demanding that they get their investment back. Ponzi obliged and assured the public that his organization was financially stable and that he could meet all obligations. He returned the money to those that requested it. By the end of the first day, he had settled nearly 1000 claims with the panicked crowd.

By continuing to meet all of his obligations, the angry masses began to dwindle and public support swelled. Crowds followed Ponzi’s every move. He was urged by many to enter politics and was hailed as a hero. Loud cheers and applause were coupled with people eager to touch his hand and assure him of their confidence.

And Ponzi continued to dream. He had planned to establish a new type of bank where the
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profits would be split equally between the shareholders and the depositors. He also planned to reopen his company under a new name, the Charles Ponzi Company, whose main purpose was to invest in major industries around the world. (Apparently, no one ever told Ponzi that the key to any successful swindle was to take the money and run.)

The public continued to support him until August 10, 1920. On this date, the auditors, banks, and newspapers declared that Ponzi was definitely bankrupt. Two days later, Ponzi confessed that he had a criminal record, which just worsened his situation. In 1908, he had served twenty months in a Canadian prison on forgery charges related to a similar high-interest scheme that he had participated in there. This was followed in 1910 by an additional two-year sentence in Atlanta, Georgia for smuggling five Italians over the Canadian border into the United States.

On August 13th, Ponzi was finally arrested by federal authorities and released on $25,000 bond. Just moments later he was rearrested by Massachusetts authorities and re-released on an additional $25,000 bond.

In the end…

The whole thing turned into one gigantic mess. There were federal and state civil and criminal trials, bankruptcy hearings, suits against Ponzi, suits filed by Ponzi, and the ultimate closing of five different banks.
Of course, we cannot forget the problem of trying to settle Ponzi’s accounts in an attempt to return all of the people’s investments.

An estimated 40,000 people had entrusted an estimated fifteen million dollars (about $140 million in U.S. funds today) in Ponzi’s scheme. A final audit of his books concluded that he had taken in enough funds to buy approximately 180,000,000 postal coupons, of which they could only actually confirm the purchase of two.

Ponzi’s only legitimate source of income was $45 that he received as a dividend of five shares of telephone stock. His total assets came to $1,593,834.12, which didn’t come close to paying off the outstanding debt. It took about eight years, but note holders were able to have an estimated thirty-seven percent of their investment returned in installments. In other words, many people lost big time.

Ultimately, Ponzi was sentenced to five years in federal prison for using the mails to defraud. After three and one-half years in prison, Ponzi was sentenced to additional seven to nine years by Massachusetts’s authorities. He was released on $14,000 bond pending an appeal and disappeared about one-month later.

Where did he go? Did he leave the country? Did he just vanish off of the face of the Earth? No one was really sure.

No, he turned up a short time later in the great state of Florida. Under the assumed name of Charles Borelli, Ponzi was involved in a pyramid (big surprise, huh?) land scheme. He was purchasing land at $16 an acre, subdividing it into twenty-three lots, and selling each lot off at $10 a piece. He promised all investors that their initial $10 investment would translate into $5,300,000 in just two years. Wow!!! Too bad much of that much of the land was underwater and absolutely worthless.

Ponzi was indicted for fraud and sentenced to one year in a Florida prison. Once again, he jumped bail on June 3, 1926 and ran off to Texas. He hopped a freighter headed for Italy, but was captured on June 28th in a New Orleans port. On June 30th he sent a telegram to President Calvin Coolidge asking to be deported. Ponzi’s request was denied and he was sent back to Boston to complete his jail term. After seven years, Ponzi was released on good behavior and deported to Italy on October 7, 1934. Believe it or not, even after all of his swindling, he still had many fans that were there to give him a rousing sendoff.

Back in Rome, Ponzi became an English translator. Mussolini then offered him a position with Italy’s new airline and he served as the Rio de Janeiro branch manager from 1939-1942. Ponzi discovered that several airline officials were using the carrier to smuggle currency and Ponzi wanted a cut. When they refused to include him, he tipped off the Brazilian government. The Second World War brought about the airline’s failure and Ponzi soon found himself unemployed. Once again, he wandered from job to job. He tried running a Rio lodge, but that failed. He then alternated between earning a pittance providing English lessons and drawing from the Brazilian unemployment fund.
Ponzi died in January of 1949 in the charity ward of a Rio de Janeiro hospital. Somehow, the man who had gone from poverty to multi-millionaire and right back to poverty in a matter of six months had managed to save up $75 to cover the costs of his burial. He left behind an unfinished manuscript appropriately titled “The Fall of Mister Ponzi”. And what a rise and fall it was.

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Ponzi would be happy to know his scheme was copied by the government and is still currently in use. Its called Social Security.
 

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Igetp2s....that is a GREAT statment!!! I really think that is a great statement because I make it all the time. I have a Masters in economics and you are absolutely correct. Social Security is a VAST Ponzi Scheme. The only real winners were the very first generation to receive the payments. Wow.

Back to the topic..I believe that offshore books many times use the more money in to pay the smaller money out...let's advertise and give great discounts and reduced vig and bonuses this month CUZ WE CAN'T OTHERWISE PAY OUR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE WITHDRAWING RIGHT NOW. Thus a spiral down begins and compounds. I am sure you are correct that this happens more often then people imagine. Thanks for passing on the Ponzi story. tulsa
 

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Good read...

Totally agree about Social Security...I'd even go a step further and say it applies to the entire world economy. Currency has nothing to back it...all that stuff we call money used to represent something that had real value. Now we just pretend it does and to the extent we all believe it, it won't matter. But what if one day people decide not to believe it...???? OUCH.
 

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An offshore scheme that occurred years back.GB was a 7 pt. fav in the Superbowl ,everywhere, over Denver. An outfit, don't even remember name,made them 3. This brought all the shoppers, middlers, etc. out of the woodwork. With obvious 1 sided play, most(with an IQ over 9 1/2) figured it was win or close the doors, but I'm sure many pumped it in. We'll never know though, Denver won outright. So....beware....RX Rabbi
 

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An outfit, don't even remember name,made them 3. This brought all the shoppers, middlers, etc. out of the woodwork. With obvious 1 sided play,
Talking about one sided play. How about this one:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com
27.02.2005 (11:56 CST)
SBR Bill Dozer reports: WilliamHill (SBR rating A-) forces player to accept altered odds after event has concluded.
"I have been directed to you by some people and I was wondering if you could please help me with my problem? It is as follows:
On Friday evening, I placed a bet with William Hill on a spread handicap in NCAA Basketball. I placed a bet of £25 for Rice to win with a handicap of -1.5pts. This was at 19.26:49 (William Hill server time). The transaction number is A564XXXXX. The game started at 00.05 that evening (GMT). My account number is: XXXXXX. I checked my account, and it showed that my bet was still open and valid of -1.5pts. Rice won the game by 6pts."

William Hill applies a line of -15 and grades wager as a loss.
"In accordance with Rule F Acceptance of Bets: We cannot allow for mistakes or accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in respect of the announcing, publishing or marking of prices, runners or results despite our every effort to ensure total accuracy. We reserve the right to correct obvious errors. In relation to this rule your bet(s) will be settled at the correct odds. You should see your balance redressed accordingly."

The player’s wager was changed from -1.5 to -15 which resulted in a losing bet. Although the player bet a "bad line" he should not be forced to accept responsibility for the book’s mistake and accept altered odds. SBR to speak with WillHill management about this policy and to request that the wager be voided.
An absolute no lose situation for a book. Not only the Caribbean or Irish are up to these tricks, the English are too now!
 

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bump
 

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I am currently readiing the book, PONZI SCHEME....good read...
 

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sherman said:
I am currently readiing the book, PONZI SCHEME....good read...

May I also recommend you read "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" written by Charles McKay.
 

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DAWOOFDADDY said:
May I also recommend you read "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" written by Charles McKay.

thanx dod, ill look for it....
 

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Sherman, the story of John Law is a fantastic read. He was in France the 18th century version of Alan Greenspan. Greenspan is applauded today for the stock market boom, but he will end in the history books as the head of the largest Ponzi Scheme perpetrated upon mankind.
 

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I always wanted to know the true story. It does sound a lot like the offshores. Certainly it sounds like what some exchanges are doing out there right now.
 

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prime example of this is BOS...they were probably happy they got shut down as they were out of money...
 

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