Would Illinois Win The ACC?

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Would Illinois Win The ACC?

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YES - ACC Teams have won nine National Championships, one fewer than the collective membership of the Big 10. The ACC has dispatched nine teams to the past eight Final Fours; the Big Ten has sent seven. Over the past five NCAA tournaments, the ACC leads the Big Ten only 4-3 in head-to-head games.

North Carolina and Wake Forest probably will be No. 1 seeds in the NCAA tournament, but each has won only one game on a ranked opponent's home court. (Neither victory was a league game. Wake won at Cincinnati, Carolina at UConn.) Illinois won at Michigan State, ranked No. 14, and at Wisconsin, ranked No. 23. Illinois beat 12th ranked Gonzaga on a neutral floor, which is more than Georgia Tech, rated ahead of the Illini in pre-season, could manage.

Wake Forest has good guards; the Illini have better. Illinois defends harder than North Carolina and runs deeper than Duke. The Illini might not have stayed unbeaten so long in the ACC, but they would have won it.

NO - Illinois win the ACC? Lets not get carried away. The mistake most people make in this kind of analysis is they look at Illinois and say: Could they beat any of the ACC's big three (North Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke) on a given night? If the answer is yes, then the (incorrect) assumption is that Illinois could win the leaugue. Sorry - Doesn't work that way.

What makes playing in the ACC so tough is the cumulative affect of the season and the fact that there are NO nights off, especially on the road. This season, Duke lost at Virginia Tech, Wake Forest fell at Florida State and Maryland, which beat Duke twice, but tripped twice against Clemson.

Illinois played eight Big Ten road games. Only three of the teams they visited (Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State) have seven or more conference wins. Eight of 11 ACC teams finished with seven or more league wins.

The Big Ten's top three teams (Illinois, Michigan State, Wisconsin) are in the RPI's top 18. The ACC's top three (Wake, Carolina, Duke) are in the top seven. The closest thing Illinois has had to to a difficult stretch was consecutive games against Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan State.

Duke began February with a stretch that included, at Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, at Maryland, at Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest again. That kind of schedule makes it impossible to bring your "A" game to the court every night. And in the ACC, if you don't bring your "A" game on the road, you'll get beat. Thats what Illinois would learn.

Compiled from material provided by Mark Bradley and Tony Barnhart of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution March, 7, 2005.

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That's a good question, shortly we will see the Illini contingent of posters reigning down on this thread like a July thunderstorm.

:raining: :storm01:


Absolutely Not!

Keep in mind though according to some Illini fans JJ Reddick would not start for the mighty fighting Illini!:lolBIG:
 

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Journeyman said:
That's a good question, shortly we will see the Illini contingent of posters reigning down on this thread like a July thunderstorm.

Don't worry I brought my big ACC umbrella with me today.:103631605
 

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well, since they beat the snot out of wake forest i'd say, they probably would. if not, they would lose to carolina by 3 points or less in the acc tourney.

the other teams in that conference could not hang.
 

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They would certainly be right there with the ACC big 3. I'd put UNC and Illini at just about even with Duke and Wake just a notch below.
 

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I think in that conference noway Illinois would come close to going undefeated. I think they would atleast lose 4 games. I think they are a great team, but so many other good teams in the conference that could beat them on a given day.
 

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As I stated in the Blog above, I think the cumulative affect of ACC teams and road games would make it impossible for them to be undefeated at this point; win the ACC? It would be close, they would definitley be in contention.
 
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In all seriousness, I would say Illinois would be a 12-4 team in the ACC, great team.
 

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NO NO NO!

Illinois is a top 10 team in the nation. Nothing more, nothing less. They will have a tough time making the elite 8 imo. If they were in the ACC they would have 4-5 losses easy.
 

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NO NO NO!

Illinois is a top 10 team in the nation. Nothing more, nothing less. They will have a tough time making the elite 8 imo. If they were in the ACC they would have 4-5 losses easy.




It has been YEARS since I've seen a more accurate statement than this!:103631605 I couldnt agree with you more,Ill would be about 4th or 5th in ACC.

Come on guys,the big10 is a JOKE compared to the ACC! If NCSU had played in the big10 all year,they would've finished in the top 3 EASY!!

Ill has 1 loss just because of their conference schedule.NO way they could do that if they had to play unc,duke,wake,ncsu,terps,etc TWICE!

Ill will not make it to the final 8:finger:
 

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It has been YEARS since I've seen a more accurate statement than this!:103631605 I couldnt agree with you more,Ill would be about 4th or 5th in ACC.

Come on guys,the big10 is a JOKE compared to the ACC! If NCSU had played in the big10 all year,they would've finished in the top 3 EASY!!

Ill has 1 loss just because of their conference schedule.NO way they could do that if they had to play unc,duke,wake,ncsu,terps,etc TWICE!

Ill will not make it to the final 8:finger:

They did play Wake. And they led by 31 late in the game. :103631605
 

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Illini said:
They did play Wake. And they led by 31 late in the game. :103631605


Wake was confused early in the season(especially in that game) not a good example Illini:lolBIG: :hump:
 

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Wake was confused early in the season(especially in that game) not a good example Illini:lolBIG: :hump:

LOL yeah, but it was apparently some sort of isolated confusion because heading into the game they were 5-0, ranked #1 and had just won at Arizona, and then following the game they won their next 10 in a row.

The original answer to the question is yes, Illinois would win the ACC.
 

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The original answer to the question is yes, Illinois would win the ACC.


NOT a chance D2!
 

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They didn't win at Arizona, it was in NYC at the NIT, where they were a bit tired coming into the Illinois game...

I think Illinois is as good as anyone... that game against Wake doesn't mean anything now...Wake had played Providence and Arizona in the NIT and then @Illinois, a quick turnaround.
 

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Quick turnaround? The Illinois game was 5 days after the Arizona game (Fri to Wed). If that isn't enough time then I don't know what is. Illinois actually had one day fewer in between the Gonzaga and Wake wins. As excuses go, that's a pretty poor one.
 

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I dont think noway in hell Illinois could go undefeated in the ACC if Duke and North Carolina wasnt even in the conference. dont get me wrong Illinois is a great team that played most of their games in a very WEAK conference.
 

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D2- A question, serious question, what would Illinois record be if they played in the ACC , in conference record?
 

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Ill would be between va tech and Maryland if they were in the ACC:103631605


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bgH vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>North Carolina</TD><TD align=middle>14-2</TD><TD align=middle>26-3</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Wake Forest</TD><TD align=middle>13-3</TD><TD align=middle>26-4</TD></TR><TR class=bgP vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>
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Duke</TD><TD align=middle>11-5</TD><TD align=middle>22-5</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Georgia Tech</TD><TD align=middle>8-8</TD><TD align=middle>17-10</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Virginia Tech</TD><TD align=middle>8-8</TD><TD align=middle>15-12</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Maryland</TD><TD align=middle>7-9</TD><TD align=middle>16-11</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Miami (Fla.)</TD><TD align=middle>7-9</TD><TD align=middle>16-11</TD></TR><TR class=bgF vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>
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North Carolina State</TD><TD align=middle>7-9</TD><TD align=middle>17-12</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Clemson</TD><TD align=middle>5-11</TD><TD align=middle>15-14</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Virginia</TD><TD align=middle>4-12</TD><TD align=middle>13-14</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Florida State</TD><TD align=middle>4-12</TD><TD align=middle>12-18</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Illinois</TD><TD align=middle>15-1</TD><TD align=middle>29-1</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Michigan State</TD><TD align=middle>13-3</TD><TD align=middle>22-5</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Wisconsin</TD><TD align=middle>11-5</TD><TD align=middle>20-7</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Minnesota</TD><TD align=middle>10-6</TD><TD align=middle>20-9</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Indiana</TD><TD align=middle>10-6</TD><TD align=middle>15-12</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Ohio State</TD><TD align=middle>8-8</TD><TD align=middle>19-11</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Iowa</TD><TD align=middle>7-9</TD><TD align=middle>19-10</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Northwestern</TD><TD align=middle>6-10</TD><TD align=middle>14-15</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Michigan</TD><TD align=middle>4-12</TD><TD align=middle>13-17</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Purdue</TD><TD align=middle>3-13</TD><TD align=middle>7-20</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Penn State</TD><TD align=middle>1-15</TD><TD align=middle>7-22</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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