If You Got 15 Points Every CBB & NBA Game....

Forget about the juice for a minute, just a simple question.

If you got 15 points to use any way you wanted (ATS or Total) in CBB & NBA, what do you think your winning percentage would be over over a season? And what would your strategy be?

funny you should ask this ol' buddy..

here are some numbers regarding NBA spreads only, using 16 points .

if you moved the number 16 points either way here are the results.

Middles = 771 times

Fav = 48 times

Dog = 77 times .

meaning the only team that covered the movement was the favorite teased down 48 times and the dog teased up 77 times.

all other games didnt matter . they middled.

so basically taking the dog got you around 95 % win rate. 848 wins , 48 losses.

dont have the info on totals .

i can tell you that college basketball when taking all the dogs up 16 points , you were hitting roughly 93 or 94 % . most of those being middles as well..

Great info World, 95 % wow. I am working on an interesting hypothetical wagering scenario right now and will post the numbers later. Thanks again, thats the kind of info I was looking for.

G

Glaken said:

Great info World, 95 % wow. I am working on an interesting hypothetical wagering scenario right now and will post the numbers later. Thanks again, thats the kind of info I was looking for.

G

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no problem dude.. i'll be looking for your scenario..

i started a thread a few weeks back asking people if i showed them a way to hit 95 % , would they be willing to lay 9-1 on a 2 teamer..

got a few replys..

i found another trend in cbb using 16 points that produced a 121-3 record over the last 2 weeks.. almost 98 %...

all my work is based on the fact that wagerweb offers 2 team 16 point teasers.

If you applied this scenario to CBB home underdogs only, I'll bet the numbers would be nearly 100%.

World Number One said:

no problem dude.. i'll be looking for your scenario..

i started a thread a few weeks back asking people if i showed them a way to hit 95 % , would they be willing to lay 9-1 on a 2 teamer..

got a few replys..

i found another trend in cbb using 16 points that produced a 121-3 record over the last 2 weeks.. almost 98 %...

all my work is based on the fact that wagerweb offers 2 team 16 point teasers.

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I will have a look at Wagerweb's teaser, lets see 9-1 pays around 1.11 which is better than the straight buy of 15 points at 5 Dimes which pays 1.04 for sides and 1.08 for totals. Even if you parlayed 15 pts at 5 Dimes (which you can't btw,) Wagerweb would still be the better place (1.11 vs. 1.08.)

El Iguana said:

If you applied this scenario to home underdogs only, I'll bet the numbers would be nearly 100%.

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I totally agree, especially in the ACC.

applying to NBA home dogs produced a record of 240-13

.948 %

that includes pick em games as well..

Thats pretty damn sweet.

Looks like we got a plan for the rest of the NBA season and the NCAA Tourny. I would be careful in the Dance though, I have seen some pretty lopsided scores in games and some surprising double digit covers.

interesting stuff!

since feb 1st taking all nba dogs and adding 16 has produced a record of 228-9

over 96 %

209 middles.. 88 %

you need numbers like this if your thinking about laying 9-1 ...

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HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>24</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1223.9156579199323" x:fmla="=D25*B26">1223.92</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>25</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; 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BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>27</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1673.8649951566954" x:fmla="=D28*B29">1673.86</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>28</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1857.9901446239321" x:fmla="=D29*B30">1857.99</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>29</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2062.3690605325646" x:fmla="=D30*B31">2062.37</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:num>30</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2289.229657191147" x:fmla="=D31*B32">2289.23</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>31</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2541.0449194821736" x:fmla="=D32*B33">2541.04</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>32</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2820.5598606252129" x:fmla="=D33*B34">2820.56</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>33</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="3130.8214452939865" x:fmla="=D34*B35">3130.82</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>34</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="3475.2118042763254" x:fmla="=D35*B36">3475.21</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>35</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="3857.4851027467216" x:fmla="=D36*B37">3857.49</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>36</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="4281.8084640488614" x:fmla="=D37*B38">4281.81</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>37</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="4752.8073950942362" x:fmla="=D38*B39">4752.81</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>38</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="5275.616208554603" x:fmla="=D39*B40">5275.62</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>39</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="5855.9339914956099" x:fmla="=D40*B41">5855.93</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:num>40</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="6500.0867305601278" x:fmla="=D41*B42">6500.09</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>41</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="7215.0962709217429" x:fmla="=D42*B43">7215.10</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>42</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="8008.7568607231351" x:fmla="=D43*B44">8008.76</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>43</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="8889.7201154026807" x:fmla="=D44*B45">8889.72</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>44</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="9867.5893280969758" x:fmla="=D45*B46">9867.59</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>45</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="10953.024154187644" x:fmla="=D46*B47">10953.02</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>46</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="12157.856811148285" x:fmla="=D47*B48">12157.86</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>47</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="13495.221060374599" x:fmla="=D48*B49">13495.22</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>48</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="14979.695377015805" x:fmla="=D49*B50">14979.70</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>49</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="16627.461868487546" x:fmla="=D50*B51">16627.46</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num>50</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">$</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ffffff; BORDER-TOP: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #ffffff; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="18456.482674021179" x:fmla="=D51*B52">18456.48

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As you can see rolling over the balance 25 times will get you $1358, and with the percentages mentioned in by World the risk is fairly low.

keep in mind that wagerweb has a $ 2000.00 limit on these teasers.

you can check with them and maybe they'll raise that limit , but at eventually getting to a point where you risk 2000 to win 222 is where your rolling it over stops.

World Number One said:

keep in mind that wagerweb has a $ 2000.00 limit on these teasers.

you can check with them and maybe they'll raise that limit , but at eventually getting to a point where you risk 2000 to win 222 is where your rolling it over stops.

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I think to keep going after you reach 2K would be irresponsible. I would just be content making a couple of these wagers a day and not try and get to greedy; afterall the law of averages will catch up with you someday. I could stomach a 2K loss a helluva lot better than a 5K loss.

World, I am going to post up with WagerWab today. Can you get a referral bonus? You should have my email still from the baseball sheet I sent you; if not email GeneralPete@Hotmail.com and ask him to give it to you. Then let me know how to get you credit for the referral.

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i emailed you glaken . and i totally agree about cutting it back after hopefully getting to a decent number.

thanks.

Another night of nothing but middles .. 6-0

Glaken , did you get my email ?

World Number One said:

i started a thread a few weeks back asking people if i showed them a way to hit 95 % , would they be willing to lay 9-1 on a 2 teamer.

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As I recall it wasn't quite 95%. Anyway laying 9-1 on a two teamer, the winning percentage is extremely critical. At 95% you win and 94.5% you lose. Because .95X.95=.9025 while .945X.945=.8930, in 10,000 bets the former returns 9025-8775= 250 units while the latter returns 8930-9630= -700 units.

Even the 95% win rate gains only 0.025 units per bet (about the yield a scalper would take) but has a high risk due to the uncertainty of the 95% figure and the high variance involved in reaching the long term.

So mathematically my answer is no, even at the 95% rate where I will win in the long run.

Youre right Woody..

the win % right now for all nba games is .946.

48 losses for the year .

what we havent touched on is handicapping the games. i have to believe that a good handicapper can eliminate some of those 48 losses by doing his homework..

i havent done enough research to figure out how to get rid of some of those 48 games.

i do know that since feb 1st the win rate has been a little higher at .962