All things Mark McGuire

Journeyman · Mar 18, 2005

IMO he has NO CHANCE of making it on the first ballot now, none! :Countdown

GMON · Mar 18, 2005

All the dip-sh*t had to was, tell the truth, explain he was trying to get the most out of God given ability, apoligize and say what a hugh mistake he made. The country would have forgiven him and moved on.

CHOPTALK · Mar 18, 2005

If you punish people for taking them- M McGwire

You must reward people who dont - McGriff

Journeyman · Mar 18, 2005

GMON said:
All the dip-sh*t had to was, tell the truth, explain he was trying to get the most out of God given ability, apoligize and say what a hugh mistake he made. The country would have forgiven him and moved on.

Exactly my point, he now looks guilty as sin...similar to Pete Rose, when he refused to admit anything...atleast McGwire didn't deny it:finger:

Big Mac is a glorified Dave Kingman:howdy:

-Slim- · Mar 18, 2005

I have always always really liked Mcgwire...
he can kiss my ass now.

Journeyman · Mar 18, 2005

I always liked him too Slim, even though he was a prick by almost all accounts, it was always cool to see the Big Red Head start out April with some insane amount of homers, this goes back to way before he hit 70 bombs...

He started many years on an insane pace, even back in the earlier 90's...oh well he made his bed .:bed:

HacheMan · Mar 18, 2005

But what's worse guys.............?

Just staying silent and not admitting or denying he took steroids, or lying about it like the others? Easily the latter for me.......

Fishhead · Mar 18, 2005

I wish they would make all these cheaters pay back their money to their employers.

1cheater · Mar 18, 2005

No fawking way should he make it in...

These guys are supposed to be role models. Would you want your kid idalizing someone who cheats to get ahead?

sherman · Mar 19, 2005

GMON said:
All the dip-sh*t had to was, tell the truth, explain he was trying to get the most out of God given ability, apoligize and say what a hugh mistake he made. The country would have forgiven him and moved on.

your right.....

sherman · Mar 19, 2005

Fishhead said:
I wish they would make all these cheaters pay back their money to their employers.

that would be something........in fact that just gave me a great idea! if he would have to pay back money, then the owners need to pay us fans back! so, someone could sue the Cardinals! Who went to enough Cards games? Giants? I want 10%!

5teamparlay · Mar 19, 2005

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HacheMan · Mar 19, 2005

5teamparlay said:
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I guess I see this from a different perspective than most of you guys and everyone else. How is NOT ADMITTING TO or NOT DENYING accusations, which Mark did, worse than those that continue to LIE ABOUT IT? :icon_conf

Rainbow · Mar 19, 2005

sherman said:
that would be something........in fact that just gave me a great idea! if he would have to pay back money, then the owners need to pay us fans back! so, someone could sue the Cardinals! Who went to enough Cards games? Giants? I want 10%!

I dont think they can do Mcguire nothing, it was all legal when he played. waste of time trying to sue.

5teamparlay · Mar 19, 2005

I'm 100% postive that he HAS LOST at least 1 vote due to this.

UWinSports · Mar 19, 2005

I hope he never makes the hall of fame.

PatPatriot · Mar 19, 2005

I wish they would make all these cheaters pay back their money to their employers.

And bring back the 5$ bleacher seat, because of it.

Hank Aaron 5 feet 11 inches 180lbs. 752 HRs
Carl Yastrzemeski 5,11 180 lbs. 400 HRs

Look at all the other ballplayers like Jim Rice just short of the Hall of Fame being nudged out by the cheaters.

Rainbow · Mar 19, 2005

Patriot said:
And bring back the 5$ bleacher seat, because of it.

Hank Aaron 5 feet 11 inches 180lbs. 752 HRs
Carl Yastrzemeski 5,11 180 lbs. 400 HRs

Look at all the other ballplayers like Jim Rice just short of the Hall of Fame being nudged out by the cheaters.

180 LBS doesnt prove nothing. I know a guy personally that takes it and he only weighs 175 LBS. everybody thinks nobody that weighs 180 LBS can be on STEROIDS.

RobFunk · Mar 19, 2005

Hache Man said:
I guess I see this from a different perspective than most of you guys and everyone else. How is NOT ADMITTING TO or NOT DENYING accusations, which Mark did, worse than those that continue to LIE ABOUT IT?

becuase he never said either way. he basically just said hes guilty without saying it. if he didnt do it, he would have said as much. he just cried like a bytch without saying he did it.

you dont want some pu$$y like that in the HOF. be a man, say i did it im sorry so everyone can get over it and move on

HacheMan · Mar 19, 2005

Makes sense to a certain extent Rob, but in my opinion the ones that just continue to blatantly lie about it are far worse. What McGwire basically did was admit it without saying so, while the others look you right in the eye and lie under oath if they have to. On top of all that, the biggest farce of all is the key culprit that should have been put on the spot and hammered with question after question also wasn't even there!