I will never agree with someone that comes out the clear blue sky and says a person thats been betting for 30yrs is a veteran so that makes him a winner because he has experience. I know I know quite a few thats been winning for sometime now, and I can remember when they were winning with very very little experience. so many people bet there entire life and never are sucessful. you can have 50yrs experience and if you are a poor money manager or you just bet to be betting you have no chance at all. funny how people think EXPERIENCE is the answer to being Successful. that not true in my books. I know people that make the same mistakes over and over again and they never learn anything from all the mistakes.