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Ahh,,, The coveted word "bearding" this is a great tactic used by more people then you think. This includes EVERY sportsbook that bets the games too. Only the books that bet the games do not preach what they practice. Perfect example is Olympic puts up a 2h line before any other book and if you bet his line on the phone you will be placed on hold till the sharper half time specialist guy comes in and moves the line, then you get the line after it is moved and usually worth nothing to you by then. (Cris sometimes does this too)

And you only get the correct line if they are not playing games with the screen. Often times a fake number will be placed on the Don Best screen so that other books will be manipulated into copying the fake number and then beards attack the weak off the screen books who copy him. And I don't mean just spiros beards uchh!! uchhh!! That number is there for a reason.(pity to the thousands of locals that use Don Best who have customers that know better)

The books cost themselves big money by throwing people out. A major portion just come back in using another name. What this does is cost a book a new bonus and a new headache. Now the book has to decipher another sharp account, which ties up the bookmaker and can cause all kind of disruptions down the line. It is amazing that the books don't just use the info from the sharps and move accordingly, instead they look to boot you for beating them to the number. (But it is ok for them to do it)

That is why you should beard. By doing it you can get bets in under an assumed name and not be held up till the account is flagged. Meanwhile you take the bonus money and use it to beat them at there own game.

The only book I know that takes a bet and does not boot you is Cris and Grande.
 
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Ahh,,, The coveted word "bearding" this is a great tactic used by more people then you think. This includes EVERY sportsbook that bets the games too. Only the books that bet the games do not preach what they practice. Perfect example is Olympic puts up a 2h line before any other book and if you bet his line on the phone you will be placed on hold till the sharper half time specialist guy comes in and moves the line, then you get the line after it is moved and usually worth nothing to you by then. (Cris sometimes does this too)

And you only get the correct line if they are not playing games with the screen. Often times a fake number will be placed on the Don Best screen so that other books will be manipulated into copying the fake number and then beards attack the weak off the screen books who copy him. And I don't mean just spiros beards uchh!! uchhh!! That number is there for a reason.(pity to the thousands of locals that use Don Best who have customers that know better)

The books cost themselves big money by throwing people out. A major portion just come back in using another name. What this does is cost a book a new bonus and a new headache. Now the book has to decipher another sharp account, which ties up the bookmaker and can cause all kind of disruptions down the line. It is amazing that the books don't just use the info from the sharps and move accordingly, instead they look to boot you for beating them to the number. (But it is ok for them to do it)

That is why you should beard. By doing it you can get bets in under an assumed name and not be held up till the account is flagged. Meanwhile you take the bonus money and use it to beat them at there own game.

The only book I know that takes a bet and does not boot you is Cris and Grande.

Damn: that's one busy H2 you got going ! I've heard of beards in LV sense, y'all can't beard a H2 in Vegas.
 

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What I don't get is why people copy whole long posts like that two inches below where they were posted.
 

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2h is much better over the net..
olympic comes out early for a reason (increase volume)-or that they will get some 1 side $- a pt. or 2 doesn't make you an automatic W
 

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Ahh,,, The coveted word "bearding" this is a great tactic used by more people then you think. This includes EVERY sportsbook that bets the games too. Only the books that bet the games do not preach what they practice. Perfect example is Olympic puts up a 2h line before any other book and if you bet his line on the phone you will be placed on hold till the sharper half time specialist guy comes in and moves the line, then you get the line after it is moved and usually worth nothing to you by then. (Cris sometimes does this too)

And you only get the correct line if they are not playing games with the screen. Often times a fake number will be placed on the Don Best screen so that other books will be manipulated into copying the fake number and then beards attack the weak off the screen books who copy him. And I don't mean just spiros beards uchh!! uchhh!! That number is there for a reason.(pity to the thousands of locals that use Don Best who have customers that know better)

The books cost themselves big money by throwing people out. A major portion just come back in using another name. What this does is cost a book a new bonus and a new headache. Now the book has to decipher another sharp account, which ties up the bookmaker and can cause all kind of disruptions down the line. It is amazing that the books don't just use the info from the sharps and move accordingly, instead they look to boot you for beating them to the number. (But it is ok for them to do it)

That is why you should beard. By doing it you can get bets in under an assumed name and not be held up till the account is flagged. Meanwhile you take the bonus money and use it to beat them at there own game.

The only book I know that takes a bet and does not boot you is Cris and Grande.



I can guranteee you this much if you telephone Spiro and he quotes you a line you have a bet. and I can assure you he will never boot you either. you dont know Spiro buddy, he"s not scared to take a large bet from anybody in the world bar none INCLUDING BW. he has his reasons why he does that with the DONBEST. he doesnt want to ruin the market, and also if he is betting a game he might put something up different. Spiro knows people looks at his website compared to the DONBEST, thats why he will put phonies on his website too for the people that is betting. Spiro has 6.5 on donbest on Colorado 7 on his website. lets go lay the 6.5 and beat him to it. Spiro is too smart for all of that. my opinion they can have Pinnacle all they want I will take Spiro smartness over anybody in the industry. Spiro is not scared of you or anybody else in the industry.
 

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most people dont get to talk to spiro when they call a bet into oly.
 

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most people dont get to talk to spiro when they call a bet into oly.

even if you dont talk to him personally on the phone if the clerk quotes you a line you have a bet. Spiro dont play them kind of games like alot of other books do, but I will not name them. so many books a clerk quotes KY -3 the player says KY -3 for the limit, I"m sorry sir its 3.5 now, NOWAY in life Spiro will ever ever ever ever in life do that.
 

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even if you dont talk to him personally on the phone if the clerk quotes you a line you have a bet. Spiro dont play them kind of games like alot of other books do, but I will not name them. so many books a clerk quotes KY -3 the player says KY -3 for the limit, I"m sorry sir its 3.5 now, NOWAY in life Spiro will ever ever ever ever in life do that.


I do not understand why on SBR recommended list Oly is R and not P ( on the column best for )

http://sportsbookreview.com/Recommended+List/default.aspx :think:
 

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I do not understand why on SBR recommended list Oly is R and not P ( on the column best for )

http://sportsbookreview.com/Recommended+List/default.aspx :think:

I have no idea unless he has a hard on for Spiro. Spiro would pay people there money if the feds confiscated everything, he"s ALREADY did that in the States. Pinnacle would have never taken peoples word. Spiro did thats a prime example why he"s the best in my books.
 

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Rainbow, while I agree thast Spiros takes bets without fear and doesn't change numbers on the call, he like his peers Carbo and BW..is a master of trickery and misdirection.

Frankie, those 2H specialists include cigars and cards..they're uncanny for sure.
 

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Rainbow where did I say he was afraid to take a bet? Read threads thorougly before posting please. He like the other betting books play games with the lines and god forbid you start winning betting steam Spiro will get on the phone and start screaming if he is having a bad day. BTW the next day he will be peachy if he had a good day. Is he a man of his word? Is he fair? Yes!

But he is a total split personality so it matters when you catch him.

If it makes you feel better if I were to list the top places where your money would be safe olympic would be on the list.
 

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Ahh,,, The coveted word "bearding" this is a great tactic used by more people then you think. This includes EVERY sportsbook that bets the games too. Only the books that bet the games do not preach what they practice. Perfect example is Olympic puts up a 2h line before any other book and if you bet his line on the phone you will be placed on hold till the sharper half time specialist guy comes in and moves the line, then you get the line after it is moved and usually worth nothing to you by then. (Cris sometimes does this too)

And you only get the correct line if they are not playing games with the screen. Often times a fake number will be placed on the Don Best screen so that other books will be manipulated into copying the fake number and then beards attack the weak off the screen books who copy him. And I don't mean just spiros beards uchh!! uchhh!! That number is there for a reason.(pity to the thousands of locals that use Don Best who have customers that know better)

The books cost themselves big money by throwing people out. A major portion just come back in using another name. What this does is cost a book a new bonus and a new headache. Now the book has to decipher another sharp account, which ties up the bookmaker and can cause all kind of disruptions down the line. It is amazing that the books don't just use the info from the sharps and move accordingly, instead they look to boot you for beating them to the number. (But it is ok for them to do it)

That is why you should beard. By doing it you can get bets in under an assumed name and not be held up till the account is flagged. Meanwhile you take the bonus money and use it to beat them at there own game.

The only book I know that takes a bet and does not boot you is Cris and Grande.

Spiro or his clerks will never ever quote you a line and then in midstream quote you a different line, also whenever you call for the 2nd half you might call and the game is on hold because somebody is betting it, so they dont get double or triple hit. which makes 100% good sense to me. Spiro will never kick you out or cut your limits because you are a wiseguy, trust me I dont know you and you dont know me but I can assure you he"s not scared of you or anybody else living. Spiro does have a temper no doubt about that maybe if you were under all the STRESS that he is under maybe you would understand that. Spiro sometimes says things that he doesnt mean its not him its the business. buddy in this business you yell at your clerks, customers and whoever else is around, you have to understand the business first so you can understand the rest. Spiro just like anybody else in this business, he sometimes say things he doesnt mean. Frankie I can tell you one thing his word is his BOND.
 
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Been suspended 3 times already in 2005 from Olympic. Why? Betting steam for limits on the internet. I am not a steam chaser by trade, and mix a lot of my own stuff in with it. My business is set up to point and click, in less than a minute. WWTS told me if I bet on the internet again they would boot me, so I call in everything. But I try to call Oly, Roy hotline, and usually I just miss. And they do leave dead old numbers on DB more than anyone else. I wish Olympic had a better phone system, but that is not there now. Probably using old rotary phones. Clerks pick up and drop phone quite often. Then in that split second or two, they keep me hostage, waiting to see if someone else beat me to a number, everywhere else is moving. Why do I stay? They always let me back in, with a stern warning not to use the internet on steam. They always pay superfast. The lines start at Oly and CRIS. They are risktakers in a world of followers. Spiro, who is known to have more swings than Tiger Woods is a good man. A person with integrity. I will be there, no matter what, hassles or not, until they tell me to leave for good. I just do not see that though, as I have been there a very long time. But I thought that about Las Palmas and they kicked me to the curb, so you never know. Will I beard, no. Should I? Probably. To me it is just not the thing to do. For others, it is the only way. Tough call. But to beard and collect bonuses? That is wrong. If I were a book and caught you doing that, you would be 86'd. The bonus is money given to attract new players, not recycle the same players under different names. If a book boots me, or cuts my limits to the point of ridiculous, I just hop away. I respect the right of refusal. Very tough call.

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Been suspended 3 times already in 2005 from Olympic. Why? Betting steam for limits on the internet. I am not a steam chaser by trade, and mix a lot of my own stuff in with it. My business is set up to point and click, in less than a minute. WWTS told me if I bet on the internet again they would boot me, so I call in everything. But I try to call Oly, Roy hotline, and usually I just miss. And they do leave dead old numbers on DB more than anyone else. I wish Olympic had a better phone system, but that is not there now. Probably using old rotary phones. Clerks pick up and drop phone quite often. Then in that split second or two, they keep me hostage, waiting to see if someone else beat me to a number, everywhere else is moving. Why do I stay? They always let me back in, with a stern warning not to use the internet on steam. They always pay superfast. The lines start at Oly and CRIS. They are risktakers in a world of followers. Spiro, who is known to have more swings than Tiger Woods is a good man. A person with integrity. I will be there, no matter what, hassles or not, until they tell me to leave for good. I just do not see that though, as I have been there a very long time. But I thought that about Las Palmas and they kicked me to the curb, so you never know. Will I beard, no. Should I? Probably. To me it is just not the thing to do. For others, it is the only way. Tough call. But to beard and collect bonuses? That is wrong. If I were a book and caught you doing that, you would be 86'd. The bonus is money given to attract new players, not recycle the same players under different names. If a book boots me, or cuts my limits to the point of ridiculous, I just hop away. I respect the right of refusal. Very tough call.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:


if you don't mind me asking, how many outs do you use?
 
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Right now, 19. Dropped a few, and Las Palmas asked me to leave, actually cut me off. They gave me a 6 months probation period, I still kept winning, and account was closed. No problems being paid or anything. Reason, too high of winning %, too much money won, for too long of a period. Like I said, no problem, see you later, If I was a beard. But with enough other outs, no need. Just added 3 more, Canbet, Platinum and Tradewinds. My core books never change, and if I find a keeper, Hollywood for example, I stay there. I do not bonus whore. Will soon see how they are on withdrawals, my last test, as they all seem good so far. Time and rollover requirements done April 1. The books are my ponds, and I hop in and out all the time.


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Just Curious... if you don't mind me asking what percentage of your bets placed on Overnight Line? Do you usaully get the best number early or waiting until next day?

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O Frog

Just Curious... if you don't mind me asking what percentage of your bets placed on Overnight Line? Do you usaully get the best number early or waiting until next day?

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Great question. Getting into trade secrets there. There is much money to be made on the overnights. I respect Oly and Bet Cris for taking those early hits. Sometimes there will be more movement in the first hour a number is hung than any other time. But that volatility is a double edged sword. The reversals or next day change of mind can really hurt you. So as with any other reward, there is a balancing risk. When I am on top of my game, and capping well, I am under the belief my number is stronger than the posted number. If I see a situation like that, I hit it. You have to have a set to hit those 1 or 2 numbers. You are risking two other things. The number may have moved for you, against what you thought, or it might just sit. I think you need to be of the mindset I am right, and put up your money. The limits used to be much higher than they are now, for good reason. One of my best, is bases. If I choose to work bases, I have much tighter numbers, and can scalp at will. I have shown that here many times. So, not to evade your answer totally, it depends on the sport, and if I am on top of my game. What I mean by that is motivated, driven, to the point of being greedy. I need to be focused, clear minded and not distracted. Most of the time I half ass it and still do well. There is no room for that betting overnights. Hope that answered something.

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