Will there ever be a switch handed pitcher in MLB?

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Just something I have gotten to thinking about. See switch hitters all the time. Even see guys like Brooks Kieschnick (just was waived by the Brewers) who can hit, play the field, and pitch. Just curious as to the possibilities of a switch-handed pitcher. Would be very doubtful to be Major League effective both RH and LH though. In this day and age of lefty-lefty or righty-righty matchups being desired, it could possibly be a useful tool. Think we will ever see it?
 
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Sorry to say it dude, but a guy will probably do it before that squad from the North Side wins a ring.
 

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haha...that is pretty funny actually. You might be on to something, but I hope your wrong. Really hoping that this year is the year...but I guess that is really no different than any other year. :drink:
 

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its hard enough to be able to throw the ball with one hand at over 90 miles an hour into a zone about the size of a milkcrate, much less being able to do it with either.

anything is possible, but i dont see it happening.
 

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Interesting thought but I doubt we'd see it...

With the lack of QUALITY Pitchers being able to use ONE arm effectively, I'd be shocked if anyone develops the dexterity to Pitch from both sides of the mound...

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Ambidextrous pitchers are rare but do exist.

An example was Greg Harris, who pitched with the Boston Red Sox. When such pitchers pitch in the Major Leagues, they must pitch with the same hand during a batter's entire at-bat. Such pitchers may change pitching hand for the next batter, but again must continue with that arm for that batter's entire at-bat.
 

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Ambidextrous pitchers are rare but do exist. An example was Greg Harris, who pitched with the Boston Red Sox. When such pitchers pitch in the Major Leagues, they must pitch with the same hand during a batter's entire at-bat. Such pitchers may change pitching hand for the next batter, but again must continue with that arm for that batter's entire at-bat.
 

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Just found this....

Below are some players who have thrown with right-handed and left-handed in games during the past 118 years:


TONY MULLANE: On July 18, 1882, pitching for the Louisville Colonels, Mullane became the first professional to throw with both arms during a game. His trademark was to stand on the mound facing the batter without a glove and both hands on the ball before deciding which arm to throw with.

LARRY CORCORAN: On June 16, 1884, the Cubs were in desperate need of pitching so Corcoran, who pitched three no-hitters in four years, came in and threw four innings with both arms. He still holds the record for the longest ambidextrous pitching stint.

PAUL RICHARDS: Richards was not a pitcher during his major-league career and he is better known as a manager with the White Sox and Orioles, but he has his own ambidextrous story. While in high school in Waxahachie, Texas, he was featured in Ripley's Believe It Or Not for winning a doubleheader in which he pitched right-handed to right-handed batters and left-handed to left-handed batters.

GREG HARRIS: Harris is the only player since the turn of the century to throw with both hands during a major-league game. On September 25, 1995, Harris pitched for the Montreal Expos, who were 24 1/2 games out of first place in the National League East, against the Cincinnati Reds. After his first lefty pitch sailed to the backstop, Harris worked a scoreless ninth inning. He faced four batters (two from each side of the mound), allowing a walk and recording three groundouts. It was the next-to-last appearance in the majors for Harris who retired after the season.

ETC.: Cal McLish, Ed Head, Dave Ferris, Tug McGraw and Jeff Schwarz all threw with both hands on the sidelines during major-league games but never appeared on a mound to attempt it during the game.
 
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Greg Harris in 1995
On September 28, 1995, Greg Allen Harris became the first pitcher to throw with both hands in a major league game since 1888. He pitched an inning of scoreless relief in one of his last appearances, and later donated his special glove to the Hall of Fame (where, presumably, it sits in a vast storage area, like that warehouse where the Ark of the Covenant ends up in "Raiders of the Lost Ark").
 

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Alright...now that we have that figured out, I have a new question. Will we ever see a regular "switch-pitcher" in MLB? One that takes advantage of both arms quite often in major league play. Greg Harris did it once, though effectively. Will there every be a player who makes a major league career by being a switch-pitcher?
 
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Alright...now that we have that figured out, I have a new question. Will we ever see a regular "switch-pitcher" in MLB? One that takes advantage of both arms quite often in major league play. Greg Harris did it once, though effectively. Will there every be a player who makes a major league career by being a switch-pitcher?
I am gonna have to go w/ history and say NO.
 

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Another article I found on this subject....



Switch-Pitching?

My father, who has long deferred to me on matters of baseball history, asked a question the other night. Namely, if there are switch-hitters, are there (or have there been) any switch-pitchers? Since my recall of the facts was a bit fuzzy (uh, Greg Harris a few years back and.. um... Double-Duty Radcliffe?), I promised him I would do a bit of research and report back.

According to the various sources I checked, four major-league pitchers have pitched both left- and right-handed in a single game. The first and most famous was Tony Mullane. Mullane, a natural righty born in Cork, Ireland, played without a glove and would face the batter with both hands on the ball, then throw it with either one. Though he gained some renown for doing this, accounts differ as to how often it actually occurred. In the New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, James wrote this about Mullane (who he ranked 82nd in his Top 100 Pitchers):

"Thirty years ago, when historical research about baseball was in a sorry state, there were widely differing accounts about how much Mullane pitched left-handed, with some sources sayhing that he did so regularly, and others questioning whether he ever did so at all. There is now a consensus that Mullane did pitch to a few batters left-handed on July 18, 1882, and did so in some exhibition games, and may have done so on other occasions, but never more than a few times."

The Baseball Online Library lists two dates in which Mullane did pitch ambidextrously, the aforementioned 1882 date (for the Louisville Eclipse of the American Association) and again in 1893 (for the Baltimore Orioles of the National League). Here are the two accounts:

• July 18, 1882: "Louisville hurler Tony Mullane pitches both right- and lefthanded in an AA game against Baltimore, the first time the feat is performed in the major leagues. Starting in the 4th inning he pitches lefthanded whenever Baltimore's lefty hitters are at bat. In addition to continuing to pitch righthanded to righthanded hitters. It works until the 9th when, with 2 outs, Charlie Householder hits his only HR of the year to beat Mullane 9-8."

• July 14, 1893: "Right-handed P Tony Mullane, losing to Chicago, pitches the 9th inning lefthanded. Chicago adds 3 more runs to their total and whips Baltimore 10-2."

Novelty aside, Mullane was a pretty good pitcher who won 30 games or more in five consecutive seasons. Of course, pitching in those days wasn't pitching in the way that we think of it. The pitching box was located only 45 or 50 feet away from home plate; it wasn't moved to 60-foot-6 until 1893. A pitcher could take a short run before throwing. And a batter could call for a high pitch or a low pitch up until 1887. The number of strikes for a strikeout or balls for a walk varied from year to year; it was seven balls to a walk in 1882. Pitchers didn't throw nearly so hard and they racked up a lot more innings; Mullane pitched as many as 567 innings but never led the league, though he did finish in the top 10 eight times. His lifetime total of 284 wins is the fourth-highest of any non-Hall of Fame pitcher. He was also a decent enough hitter and fielder to play every position except catcher, and he appeared in over 200 games in the field, mostly as an outfielder. And yes, he was a switch-hitter.

The next pitcher to perform the ol' righty-lefty in a game was Larry Corcoran of the Chicago White Stockings, who did so against Buffalo in 1884, pitching four innings of middle relief (apparently the longest stint of switch-pitching). Corcoran was a very good pitcher from 1880 through 1884 for Chicago, pitching his team to three consecutive first-place finishes in his first three years, winning 163 games and tossing three no-hitters. But he fell victim to a kidney disease and his health deteriorated; he won only 14 more games in the bigs after that five year stretch, was done by age 27, and dead at 32. Still, his spot in baseball history is secure; he's credited with being the first pitcher to work out a set of signals with his catcher--Corcoran would shift his tobacoo chaw when he wanted to throw a curve.

After Corcoran came yet another 1880s hurler. On May 9, 1888, Louisville Colonels righty Elton "Icebox" Chamberlain (don't you love that name?) threw the last two innings of an 18-6 rout lefthanded, holding Kansas City scoreless. Chamberlain was a solid pitcher for several teams in the AA and NL from 1886 to 1896, winning 157 games, but the best thing about him seems to have been his nickname. Bill James wrote that he was called "Icebox" because he was because he was "cool and collected on the mound." But a writer named Gene "Two-Finger" Carney, who writes a web log called Notes From the Shadows of Cooperstown, has another explanation: Chamberlain discovered in 1890 that baseballs frozen overnight worked to a pitcher's advantage. Either way, you'd have to say, he was pretty cool.

After Mullane's second stint in 1893, no major-leaguer performed the ambidextrous feat in a game for over 100 years. But according to Jerome Holtzman, the official historian of Major League Baseball, several warmed up on the sidelines, including Cal McLish (whose real name is Calvin Coolidge Julius Caesar Tuskahoma McLish; I dare you to look it up); Brooklyn's Ed Head, Boston Red Sox pitcher Dave (Boo) Ferris, Tug McGraw of the Mets, and Jeff Schwarz of the White Sox.

On Septmeber 28, 1995, ambidexterity returned to the major league mound in the form of Montreal Expo reliever Greg Harris. In the 9th inning of a 9-7 loss, Harris retired the first batter (Reggie Sanders) right-handed, then switched over to lefty and walked Hal Morris. Still lefty, he got Eddie Taubensee to ground out, then switched back to righty, to retire Brett Boone. Harris, who had wanted to do this for 10 years, was well-prepared for the occasion, and used a special six-fingered glove which has been sent to the Hall of Fame. At 39, his career was at its tail end; he pitched only once more in the majors before retiring.

A couple of other major leaguers did the swtcheroo earlier in their careers. Bert Campaneris, a star shortstop for the Kansas City and Oakland A's who once played all nine positions in the same game, pitched with both hands in a Florida State League game in 1962. And Paul Richards, a big-league catcher and manager, was said to have pitched both ends of a double-header ambidextrously during his high-school days in Waxahachie, Texas and been featured in Ripley's Believe It Or Not for doing so. Waxahachie?

Oh, and as for Double Duty Radcliffe, I was waaaay off. Ted Radcliffe was a very popular Negro-League star who earned his nickname from Damon Runyon by pitching a shutout in the second game of a Negro League World Series doubleheader after catching Satchel Paige in the first. But that's an entirely different story...
 

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I'd like to see this guy in the Yankees organization ( AAA) make it to the majors.....

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Venditte pitching right-handed for the Staten Island Yankees New York Yankees Relief pitcher Born: June 30, 1985 (age 26)
Omaha, Nebraska Bats: Right Throws: Switch Patrick Michael Venditte, Jr. (born June 30, 1985 in Omaha, Nebraska) is an American baseball player. He is a minor league baseball player currently in the New York Yankees organization. After attending Creighton University, the Yankees drafted Venditte in 2008. He currently pitches for the Class-AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees in the International League.
Venditte is a switch pitcher, capable of pitching proficiently with both arms. He is recognized as the only active professional pitcher who is able to do this.[1][2] Venditte's rare ability to pitch with either arm required minor league baseball to create a rule for ambidextrous pitchers, known colloquially as the "Pat Venditte Rule".
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Early life

Pat Jr. was born on June 30, 1985 in Omaha, Nebraska, one of four children of Pat Sr. and Janet Venditte.[3] Though his son is naturally right-handed, Pat Sr. trained his son to throw with both arms to give his son an edge in athletic competitions.[4] Toward this end, the Venditte backyard included astroturf, a batting cage, a radar gun, and a pitching machine.[5] In addition to training both arms from a young age, Pat Jr. practiced punting footballs with both legs to establish the leg motion needed when pitching with each arm.[3]
Venditte used both arms when playing in little league which sometimes caused him to be confused for twins.[4][5] Venditte attended Omaha Central High School. He had a 5-4 win-loss record during his senior year, earning All-Nebraska second team honors.[3]
College career

Venditte joined the Creighton Bluejays in 2005 as a walk-on. Creighton head coach Ed Servais did not allow Venditte to pitch with both arms during his five appearances his freshman year fearing the spectacle would become a "circus". However, Venditte has regularly used both arms in collegiate play since his sophomore year in which he attained a 3.02 ERA in 62.2 innings. In his junior year, Venditte appeared in 36 of Creighton's 58 games before going into the 2007 NCAA Division I Baseball Tournament. His opponents batting average of .185 was the fourth best in the nation, and he achieved an 1.85 ERA.[6] At one point during the season, Venditte had a streak of 43 2⁄3 scoreless innings.[7] In the 2007 season, Venditte earned first-team all-conference honors for the Missouri Valley Conference and led Creighton to its first conference championship in which he was named the tournament Most Valuable Player.[8] On May 28, 2007, Collegiate Baseball named Venditte the national player of the week.[6] He was named to the All-American third team for the 2007 season.[9] Venditte was also voted Midwest Region Pitcher of the Year by online pitching magazine InsidePitching.com.[10]
On June 8, 2007, the New York Yankees selected Venditte in the 45th round of the 2007 Major League Baseball Draft with the 1345th pick. Venditte was surprised by the pick because he had told all major league scouts that he intended to return to Creighton for his senior year. The Yankees called him during the 30th round of the draft asking him how much it would take to sign him, but Venditte refused to set a price.[7] Ultimately, the Yankees were unable to sign Venditte before the August 15, 2007 signing deadline.[11] Venditte said that he was not quite ready to turn professional and wanted to build velocity with his left arm and add another pitch with his right arm.[11]
Venditte played 2006 summer ball for the Central Illinois Collegiate League's Quincy Gems, and 2007 summer ball for the Wisconsin Woodchucks in the Northwoods League. As the Woodchucks' closer, he had a 4-1 record, 9 saves, a 1.76 ERA, and a .154 opponents' batting average.[11]
He was again drafted by the Yankees in the 2008 Major League Baseball Draft, in the 20th round with the 620th overall pick, and decided to sign.
Professional career


Venditte pitching for the Trenton Thunder left-handed


His initial assignment was to the Staten Island Yankees of the Class-A Short-Season New York–Penn League. On June 19, 2008, in his first minor league appearance with Staten Island against the Brooklyn Cyclones, Venditte pitched a scoreless ninth inning for a Yankees win. Before Venditte faced the last Cyclone batter, Ralph Henriquez, a switch-hitter, upon choosing to bat left- or right-handed (with Venditte subsequently choosing to pitch with the same hand), Henriquez would then go to the other side of the plate (and adjust his shin guard—which is worn on the front leg when a batter takes his stance) to regain the advantage. After this had happened several times the teams appealed to the umpiring crew, which ruled that the batter must first select from which side of the plate he intended to hit, and that the pitcher would then be allowed to declare with which arm he would pitch. Venditte subsequently struck out Henriquez, who slammed his bat against the dirt, to end the game. A film of the incident received notoriety on the Internet and the tale was recounted in a number of places, including within the baseball compendium Rollie's Follies.[12]
Venditte completed the 2008 season with 23 saves in 30 appearances with a 0.83 ERA. His performance earned him a spot on the New York–Penn League All-Star team and the Minor League Baseball Yearly Award for Best Short-Season Reliever.[13]
For the 2009 season, he was assigned to the Charleston RiverDogs of the Class-A South Atlantic League.[14] He was promoted to the Tampa Yankees of the Class A Advanced Florida State League on June 26, 2009.[15] He finished the regular season with a 2.21 ERA and 2 saves in 21 appearances. In October, Venditte pitched for Águilas del Zulia in the Venezuelan Winter League.
Venditte pitched for the Yankees in a spring training game against the Atlanta Braves on March 30, 2010, giving up one earned run on two hits and a walk in 1 1⁄3 innings.[16] He started the 2010 season in Tampa, posting a 1.73 ERA through 72 2⁄3 innings in 41 appearances. On August 31, 2010 Venditte was promoted to the Trenton Thunder of the Class-AA Eastern League.[17]
Venditte pitched to a 3.41 ERA in 51 appearances with Trenton in 2011.[4] Though Venditte was eligible to be selected in the Rule 5 draft during the 2011–12 offseason, the Yankees chose not to protect him.[18] However, he was not chosen by any MLB team.[19] During the 2011-12 offseason, Venditte pitched in the Mexican Pacific League.[20]
Venditte was promoted to the Class-AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees of the International League for Opening Day in 2012.[21] He suffered a torn labrum in his right shoulder.[22]
Pitching style

When using his right arm, Venditte delivers over the top and can throw a slider and curveball, as well as a fastball at around 90 miles per hour (140 km/h) that tops out at 94 miles per hour (151 km/h).[4][23] His left-handed delivery is side-armed in which he throws a slider and a fastball that averages 85 miles per hour (137 km/h).[4] Though Venditte is considered a fan favorite and has excellent minor league numbers, he is not considered a top prospect because of his age and underwhelming fastball velocity.[24]
Venditte uses a custom made six-fingered glove with a thumb-hole on each side allowing him to easily switch back and forth.[4][25] He generally pitches with his right arm against right-handed batters and left-handed against left-handed batters which minimizes his opponent's advantage when strategically ordering batters in the line-up based on which side of the plate they hit from.[5] Furthermore, by splitting his pitches between his arms, he is able to pitch longer than traditional pitchers before becoming fatigued.[5]
The Pat Venditte Rule

Venditte's rare ambidextrous abilities prompted the Professional Baseball Umpire Corporation (PBUC) to issue a new rule for dealing with ambidextrous pitchers, limiting the number of times that a switch-pitcher and switch-hitter can change sides during one at-bat. After consulting with a variety of sources, including the Major League Baseball Rules Committee, the PBUC issued its new guidelines on July 3, 2008. It reads:[26]

  • The pitcher must visually indicate to the umpire, batter and runner(s) which way he will begin pitching to the batter. Engaging the rubber with the glove on a particular hand is considered a definitive commitment to with which arm he will throw. The batter will then choose which side of the plate he will bat from.
  • The pitcher is not permitted to pitch with the other hand until the batter is retired, the batter becomes a runner, the inning ends, the batter is substituted for by a pinch-hitter or the pitcher incurs an injury.
  • Any switch (by either the pitcher or the batter) must be clearly indicated to the umpire. There will be no warm-up pitches during the change of arms.
  • If an injury occurs the pitcher may change arms but not use that arm again during the remainder of the game.
See also

Biography portal Baseball portal

  • Greg A. Harris, the only "switch-pitcher" in major-league baseball's modern era
 
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