The NY Mets Better Find A Closer.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

Brad Looper is the WORST.

JudgeWapner · Apr 16, 2005

Anyone would be better.

lander · Apr 16, 2005

Looper is solid. He'll bounce back.

lander · Apr 16, 2005

Solid win by Loop.

Mota is garbage.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

lander said:
Looper is solid. He'll bounce back.

Solid, the worst closer in the league.

Brock Landers · Apr 16, 2005

Rainbow said:
Solid, the worst closer in the league.

That would be either Latroy Hawkins OR Joe Borowski...take your pick for the worst closer!

lander · Apr 16, 2005

He's top ten. Off the top of my head these guys are not even half the pitcher that Loop is ..

Kim, Takatsu, Percival, Affeldt, Mesa, Mota, Dotel, Ryan, Wickman

peteep · Apr 16, 2005

Looper is far from a quality closer. Set-up maybe, but to have him as a closer can't exactly make you feel confident.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

Brock Landers said:
That would be either Latroy Hawkins OR Joe Borowski...take your pick for the worst closer!

I will take both of them over Looper.

peteep · Apr 16, 2005

lander said:
He's top ten. Off the top of my head these guys are not even half the pitcher that Loop is ..

Kim, Takatsu, Percival, Affeldt, Mesa, Mota, Dotel, Ryan, Wickman

Percival is way better than Looper, not even close. Mota is a better pitcher hands down but not a proven closer. Kim isn't a closer anymore. Takatsu has WAY better stuff. Dotel racks up far more k's and although not remarkably consistent he is better at his role. You got Ryan, Affeldt and Wickman right though. They suck just as much as Looper.

aceduecetrey · Apr 16, 2005

29/34 and a 2.70 is not bad at all.

WorldNumberOne · Apr 16, 2005

marlins got hosed.. cabrera easily safe at home in the 9th..

dont know how that ump missed it..

aceduecetrey · Apr 16, 2005

World Number One said:
marlins got hosed.. cabrera easily safe at home in the 9th..

dont know how that ump missed it..

I know and the sad thing is the guy was in perfect position to make the call.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

aceduecetrey said:
29/34 and a 2.70 is not bad at all.

I could have swore he was 21-23 Lifetime with a 3.56 ERA.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

Rainbow said:
I could have swore he was 21-23 Lifetime with a 3.56 ERA.

3.56 ERA will not cut the mustard being a closer.

aceduecetrey · Apr 16, 2005

Rainbow said:
I could have swore he was 21-23 Lifetime with a 3.56 ERA.

I was noting his previous year and also since he is a closer and closer get paid to get saves, I would think that saves would be more relevant than W/L.

lander · Apr 16, 2005

peteep said:
Percival is way better than Looper, not even close. Mota is a better pitcher hands down but not a proven closer. Kim isn't a closer anymore. Takatsu has WAY better stuff. Dotel racks up far more k's and although not remarkably consistent he is better at his role. You got Ryan, Affeldt and Wickman right though. They suck just as much as Looper.

You're wrong, but that's ok because otherwise 2 sides wouldn't exist

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

aceduecetrey said:
I was noting his previous year and also since he is a closer and closer get paid to get saves, I would think that saves would be more relevant than W/L.

Gotcha, I thought you were talking about W/L.

Rainbow · Apr 16, 2005

Looper is just no closer and never will be. I think setup without a doubt is his role.

aceduecetrey · Apr 16, 2005

Rainbow said:
Looper is just no closer and never will be. I think setup without a doubt is his role.

I am not a Met fan, in fact the only way I could hate the Mets more than I already do would be if they traded for Bonds, but I think Looper is in the top half of all closers in baseball. Everything just gets blown out of proportion by the NY media and all the NY fans think everyone should be like Rivera. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree here. I find it amazing that NY fans want to trade for someone like Baez, who would be no better than Looper.