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Im watching CBS right now....theyre running a piece right now on the papal conclave.....some woman said that Nostradamus predicted that the day a black pope was elected it would be an indication that the world would end....

Is that so? Anyone ever heard of this?

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Interesting....makes him sound like a racist. Anyhow, all his predictions are general crap that can be applied to anything.
 
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Most of his predictions are so generic they could be applied to anything. Supposedly a blue turbaned ruler from the East is the mark of the end. He comes to power and starts a cataclismic end of the world scenario. His writings leave a lot of room for interpretation. And quite a few of his predictions that you can interpret went nowhere.

My guess, a well written fraud...OF:icon_conf
 

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nimue77 said:
Interesting....makes him sound like a racist. Anyhow, all his predictions are general crap that can be applied to anything.
Remarks of ignorance.
 

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VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- Black smoke exited a chimney atop the Sistine Chapel on Monday, indicating a vote was taken and a pope was not selected.

Roman Catholic cardinals from six continents locked themselves inside the Vatican's Sistine Chapel to begin a historic conclave to select a successor to Pope John Paul II.

The 115 cardinals from 52 countries entered the chapel in a solemn procession that was broadcast live around the world.

They walked from the Hall of Blessings into the chapel as "The Litany of Saints" was sung. Once the cardinals were inside, the invocation of the Holy Spirit, "Veni, Creator Spiritus," was sung.

The cardinals -- clad in crimson robes, shoulder capes and hats -- each took an oath of secrecy, vowing not to disclose the discussions that take place in the conclave.

They will emerge from the conclave only when they have chosen the first new pontiff of the third Christian millennium and the 264th successor to St. Peter.

If the conclave resembles previous ones, the cardinals will need several days and repeated votes to reach a majority. (Selection process)

Earlier Monday, the cardinals held a special Mass in St. Peter's Basilica to pray for God's guidance.

The first clues to the process of finding a successor were sought during the homily or sermon delivered at the public Mass.

It was read by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany, a man who has been described as a frontrunner to become the next pope.

"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the church, is often labeled today as a fundamentalism," Ratzinger said during the homily.

"Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and 'swept along by every wind of teaching,' looks like the only attitude acceptable to today's standards," he continued. "We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one's own ego and one's own desires."

John Allen, CNN's Vatican analyst, said Ratzinger delivered a "very blunt" message for the church to "stay true to itself."

That was a strong indication that Ratzinger, 78, wants a "traditionalist" elected the next pope, Allen said.

After the Mass, the cardinals broke for lunch and rest. They began leaving the Hall of Blessings at 4:30 p.m. (1430 GMT/1030 EDT) and walked in a procession to the Sistine Chapel.

John Paul II put his own stamp on the centuries-old process before his death April 2 at age 84. John Paul appointed all but three of the 115 cardinals who will choose his successor.

Although a media blackout has been in place for more than a week, a number of cardinals have made it clear that there is no obvious heir apparent. (Potential successors)

"I think the race remains wide open," Allen said, calling this the first conclave in which Italians have not been in control in at least the early stages.

It's unlikely John Paul II made known any preference for a successor, said Chester Gillis, chairman of the department of theology at Georgetown University.

"I just don't think it would have been in character for him to give the nod to someone," he said.

A Mass celebrated Saturday was the last held during the nine days of mourning that started with John Paul's funeral April 8. (Full story)

The cardinals moved Sunday afternoon into the Domus Sanctae Marthae, on Vatican grounds, where they will be housed throughout the conclave, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said Saturday.

The cardinals have been meeting since the pope's death, but the business of choosing a successor has not begun, Navarro-Valls said.

"No name was proposed, or spoken of, or even suggested," he said.

Once in the Sistine Chapel, each cardinal swore an oath, of which secrecy is just one part. The cardinals will swore to observe the changes to the process that John Paul put in place in 1996 and to faithfully carry out the duties of the office.

Quick vote?

Some Vatican watchers predicted that the process would be completed within a few days.

"If I were a betting man, which I'm not, I'm guessing by this April 21st, we'll have a new pope elected," the Rev. David O'Connell, president of the Catholic University of America, told CNN on Sunday.

John-Peter Pham, a former Vatican diplomat, noted that none of the past three papal elections took more than eight days and that some of John Paul's changes were intended to prevent an impasse. If no one has the required two-thirds majority after about 34 ballots, a simple majority will suffice.

"I couldn't anticipate a scenario where this would go much longer than a week," Pham said.

Ideally, a pope would be selected in three or four days, Allen said. Less than that could give the impression of a rush to judgment, and any longer could leave the impression the cardinals were divided, he said.

The longest interregnum occurred in the 13th century, lasting two years and nine months.

Choreographed voting

The balloting itself is elaborately choreographed. Each cardinal is given a piece of paper on which the words, in Latin, are inscribed: "I elect as supreme pontiff ... "

After noting their choices in handwriting they are are encouraged to disguise, each cardinal approaches a table in the Sistine Chapel in order of seniority, picks up a silver plate and places the ballot on top. He then puts the plate into an urn.

Three cardinals count each ballot, and another three check the counting to ensure its accuracy.

On Tuesday, a Mass will be held in the hotel at 7:30 a.m., and the cardinals will assemble in the chapel by 9 a.m. Two votes will take place in the morning and two more in the afternoon, beginning at 4 p.m.

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according to the bible the begining of the end will begin when babylon is reconstructed, iraq is where babylon used to be (between Tigris and Euphrates)(50 miles south of modern Baghdad, just north of what is now the modern Iraqi town of al-Hillah. ) and right now iraq is beign reconstructed from ashes...
 

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superstar said:
according to the bible the begining of the end will begin when babylon is reconstructed, iraq is where babylon used to be (between Tigris and Euphrates)(50 miles south of modern Baghdad, just north of what is now the modern Iraqi town of al-Hillah. ) and right now iraq is beign reconstructed from ashes...
It really makes you stop and think.
 

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Judge Wapner said:
Slim, no he didn't. But he did have Bandini in the Blue Grass.

no he only had a place wager on him not on top. look closer.
 

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Judge Wapner said:
Slim, no he didn't. But he did have Bandini in the Blue Grass.
:lolBIG: no, but thats how im leaning to Judge its just as good as nostradamus :drink: ....
 

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I think that a lot of his prophecies are self fullfilling. Meaning that there is a group who is making them happen. This group is the one that intends to cull the number of inhabitants on earth when we get too high or when the time is right I can't imagine the population on earth was ever much higher than it is currently. So be forwarned. Here is what I found on the prophecy.

Then the king of the kingdom of the King
will be elected to replace the one of the eclipse
and his first decree shall state
The shizzle fizzle mah rizzle dizzle.
 

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My world ended when NE couldnt cover. When the vatican talks about a black pope they are talking about the color of one of their hats. I hope that the new Pope is more pro gambling than the last one. We need to add some pizzaz to the Bingo, maybe being able to play 20 multigames!!!
 

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Nostradamus can eat a bowl of dick, for all I know... it's nothing more than pagan prophecy... why go any further than the very word of God, if you want to study prophecy?

Who's got action on the sucessor of the pope?

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Do you realize that Catholocism and Christianity in general are meldings of religions and beleifs considered to be pagan at one time?



Walk of Life said:
Nostradamus can eat a bowl of dick, for all I know... it's nothing more than pagan prophecy... why go any further than the very word of God, if you want to study prophecy?

Who's got action on the sucessor of the pope?

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My dear Borat,

Catholicsm is the product of the Roman Empire absorbing a religion they could not defeat, despite their many attempts.

On the other hand, Christianity is based on Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, the Word made flesh and dead on a Roman cross, yet risen from the dead by the Father. He's the only way to the Father, Christ is the truth and everlasting life.

Christ never instaured religion of any kind and true Christianity is far from just a dogamtic religion, it's believing Jesus is the Risen Saviour and Redeemer of our souls.

So, Catholicsm and true Cristianity are 2 different things.
 

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i think he also predicted two tall buildings being hit by birds....9/11

i dont know....all this **** makes u sit back and think
 

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I understand that walk. But I would bet my life that we would not have Christianity if the Roman Empire ( Constantine in particular) did not decide to make it the "universal" religion. They were one and the same until 1517.



Walk of Life said:
My dear Borat,

Catholicsm is the product of the Roman Empire absorbing a religion they could not defeat, despite their many attempts.

On the other hand, Christianity is based on Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, the Word made flesh and dead on a Roman cross, yet risen from the dead by the Father. He's the only way to the Father, Christ is the truth and everlasting life.

Christ never instaured religion of any kind and true Christianity is far from just a dogamtic religion, it's believing Jesus is the Risen Saviour and Redeemer of our souls.

So, Catholicsm and true Cristianity are 2 different things.
 

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