NASCAR: Any early leans for The Subway Fresh 500 from Phoenix (Sat Night)?

Saturday night race.

Should be a treat. I like the night races better than day.

From Pinny: Odds to win.


<TABLE width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=wht-title vAlign=top width="14%" bgColor=#000066>Thu 4/21</TD><TD class=wht-title bgColor=#000066 colSpan=4>Odds to Win the Race


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=wht-title align=middle bgColor=#999999 colSpan=5></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk>01:55 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>101 Jimmie Johnson</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+643</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio10>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio10>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P0></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>102 Dale Earnhardt Jr.</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+935</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio11>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio11>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P1></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>103 Jeff Gordon</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1001</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio12>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio12>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>104 Ryan Newman</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1001</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio13>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio13>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P3></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>105 Greg Biffle</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1030</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio14>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio14>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P4></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>106 Kurt Busch</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1304</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio15>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio15>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P5></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>107 Tony Stewart</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1344</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio16>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio16>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P6></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>108 Kasey Kahne</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1768</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio17>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio17>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P7></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>109 Mark Martin</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1748</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio18>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio18>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P8></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>110 Matt Kenseth</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2440</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio19>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio19>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P9></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>111 Kevin Harvick</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2440</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio value=riskType name=radio110>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio110>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P10></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>112 Rusty Wallace</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2545</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio value=riskType name=radio111>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio111>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P11></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>113 Jamie McMurray</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+3323</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio112>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio112>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P12></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>114 Ricky Rudd</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2424</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio113>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio113>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P13></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>115 Carl Edwards</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2327</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio114>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio114>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P14></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>116 Bobby Labonte</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+4779</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio115>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio115>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P15></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>117 Jeff Burton</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+4618</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio116>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio116>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P16></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>118 Elliott Sadler</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+5883</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio117>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio117>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P17></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>119 Sterling Marlin</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+7922</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio118>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio118>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P18></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>120 Dale Jarrett</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio119>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio119>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P19></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>121 Jeremy Mayfield</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+1926</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio120>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio120>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P20></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>122 Joe Nemechek</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+3606</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio121>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio121>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P21></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>123 Casey Mears</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio122>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio122>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P22></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>124 Brian Vickers</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio123>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio123>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P23></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>125 Michael Waltrip</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+2023</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio124>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio124>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P24></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>126 Scott Riggs</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio125>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio125>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P25></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>127 Kyle Busch</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio126>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio126>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P26></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>128 Field</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>+8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio127>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio127>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C1P27></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

General- DREAM MY MAN!

i never make any race bets until i see the practice speeds. makes no sense to me to make race bets before practice sessions are completed.

Mcmurray and Vickers are good longshots

red007 said:

i never make any race bets until i see the practice speeds. makes no sense to me to make race bets before practice sessions are completed.

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Solid logic Red, but theses guys play games in practice often. They will go out on purpose with an adjustment looking slower than they are. Even if they don't, guys with good pit crews have 500 miles to tune her in. The practice speeds and quals are about the only indicators you have though if you haven't followed for a long time.

Really looking forward to the night race.

Very tough to cap a race without happy hour, IMO, and I don't believe there is one this week unfortunately. Very easy sport to hammer when happy hour is run.

Not as many "games" going on yet this year. New aero package and tires are making evryone work for every spot. It does seem to be doing what they wanted, make evrything more equal and harder to be up front every week.

for one of the rare times, PINNACLE asleep at the wheel.
nascar race is tonight and they have nothing up w/ 6 hours to go before the race. guess they think the race is on sunday

Nice price on Martin.

Yes, patiently awaiting pinnacle's lines myself. They are sort of the straw that stirs the drink.

less than 5 hours to go
and still nothing up.
if nothing is up in the next 30 min, i'll make my race bets elsewhere.

Getting close to showtime.

:drink:

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<TABLE width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk>04:30 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>101 Jimmie Johnson</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +650</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio00>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio00>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P0></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>102 Dale Earnhardt Jr.</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1600</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio01>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio01>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P1></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>103 Jeff Gordon</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +700</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio02>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio02>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>104 Ryan Newman</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1300</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio03>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio03>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P3></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>105 Greg Biffle</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +800</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio04>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio04>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P4></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>106 Kurt Busch</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +800</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio05>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio05>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P5></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>107 Tony Stewart</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio06>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio06>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P6></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>108 Kasey Kahne</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1600</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio07>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio07>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P7></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>109 Mark Martin</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +2000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio08>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio08>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P8></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>110 Matt Kenseth</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +2000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio09>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio09>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P9></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>111 Kevin Harvick</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1800</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio010>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio010>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P10></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>112 Rusty Wallace</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1600</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio011>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio011>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P11></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>113 Jamie McMurray</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +4500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio012>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio012>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P12></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>114 Ricky Rudd</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +4000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio013>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio013>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P13></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>115 Carl Edwards</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +3500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio014>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio014>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P14></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>116 Bobby Labonte</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +2200</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio015>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio015>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P15></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>117 Jeff Burton</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1800</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio016>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio016>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P16></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>118 Elliott Sadler</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +5000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio017>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio017>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P17></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>119 Sterling Marlin</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +10000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio018>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio018>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P18></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>120 Dale Jarrett</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +7500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio019>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio019>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P19></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>121 Jeremy Mayfield</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1400</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio020>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio020>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P20></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>122 Joe Nemechek</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +1600</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio021>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio021>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P21></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>123 Casey Mears</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +12500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio022>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio022>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P22></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>124 Brian Vickers</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +6000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio023>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio023>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P23></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>125 Michael Waltrip</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +3000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio024>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio024>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P24></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>126 Scott Riggs</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +8000</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio025>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio025>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P25></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>127 Kyle Busch</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +8500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio026>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio026>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P26></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>128 Field</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +6500</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio027>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio027>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C0P27></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

roush has been on fire.

of course. roush is the BEST!~


THEY WILL GET THEIR THIRD CHAMPIONSHIP IN A ROW THIS YEAR.

Busch has the car to beat. :drink:

Somebody knew something...nice steam on Busch.

Regardless, we all know that anyone named Bus(c)h is worthless.

:shocked: