Withdrawal shenanigans pulled by well-known book

Tell me if you think this is suspect...

I made close to five figures at a well-known book and requested a payout. After a bevy of solicitations on their side for all kinds of information (driver's license, signed forms, and oral verification of account numbers I had already given in writing) advanced in about four or five phone calls (they called me on my cell all day), I get a call from someone at the book several hours later offering me an enormous bonus on my balance if I agree not to withdraw before fulfilling a rollover.

I took the bait.

After fulfilling the rollover, I asked the guy at the book what deal he had for me this time. He offered me an even more obscene, humongous bonus, in exchange for another enormous rollover.

Once again, I took the bait.

Now I have five-digits in a book that, with a million requests for info followed by a last-ditch generous bonus offer, looks like they're not too keen on paying. But what can I do? I'm stuck with this rollover requirement I agreed to, which is going to bind me to the book for at least another month, if not longer...(unless it's shorter because I'll wipe out!)

Any suggestions? Would you be immediately suspicious of a book that asks for a wealth of information to process a withdrawal, and follows that up with huge bonus offers...or am I being paranoid?

Any advice well obliged. Hard enough to win at this marathon. Don't need the added hassle of being stiffed.

Run like hell...

Just name the book!

very scary....about 6 yrs ago betonsports did something like that to me but on a much smaller scale my post up was only like $500.00 I wanted to withdraw it after 6 months or something and it was like pulling teeth, I kept getting transferred to different people ...guys where trying to "save" me from leaving, I did not like that ...I was persistant and got my small amount out and went with Olympic and pinny and never been happier.. maybe BOS has changed over the years as they are still one of the biggest books out there


sorry your having issues but id demand my funds and get out ,IMHO

u should name the book in this forum that is what this is supposed to be about....

Shouldn't be hard to guess which book this is about....

Why is the bonus concept --so hard for intelligent people to understand. Folks, a bonus says one thing LOUD and CLEAR to me. "Trouble".

But I was allways told when you go looking for trouble, you'll find it.
I hope WSEX responds here to the driver's liscense post. This is the only book I play with and I may have to send them an email asking for a clarification.

I would never post the name of the book until I had all my money in my pocket. It does you no good and could cause a lot of harm.

If you get paid ... well you got paid. So that means you were worrying about nothing, so why taint the book?

If you do not get paid, send General, Shrink and maybe even SBR an email and try to fix the problem behind closed doors, never play there again and THEN post the name of the book.

If I had to guess, this sports book was thrown off of this site...

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Check their rules and see if you can make a withdrawal by forfeiting the bonus. Some books allow that, others don't. If they don't, then it looks like you're stuck with the rollover.

Offering a bonus for not withdrawing is a bad sign to be sure, but it still doesn't count as a slow pay. After all, you didn't have to accept it, right?

Generally when there is a dispute between a player and a book, the key issue is what is in the rules. If all this stuff about ID and withdrawal before rollover etc. is there in black and white, then it's your responsibility because players should read the rules before posting up. If OTOH it's not in the rules and just out of the blue, then you would have a stronger case.

GL in any case

THE SHRINK said:

If I had to guess, this sports book was thrown off of this site...

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:think:

Looks like royal pain in the arse...

What kind of Bonus are we talking about here?

Be more specific please?

cincy_hugg said:

I would never post the name of the book until I had all my money in my pocket. It does you no good and could cause a lot of harm.

If you get paid ... well you got paid. So that means you were worrying about nothing, so why taint the book?

If you do not get paid, send General, Shrink and maybe even SBR an email and try to fix the problem behind closed doors, never play there again and THEN post the name of the book.

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good advise these guys can usually help pretty quick

Well, in all fairness to this sports book, we have yet to hear their side to the story, which I believe they will refute and we I have a few threads that all of you should refer to before jumping to any conclusions....

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?p=809857#post809857

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=203651

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=205196

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=206929

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I heard their side Ken. And as usual another POS liar.

Thanks to Clevfan for sending Ken those links.

How does Cleveeeeey do it , simply amazing

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Well, in all fairness to this sports book, we have yet to hear their side to the story, which I believe they will refute and we I have a few threads that all of you should refer to before jumping to any conclusions....

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?p=809857#post809857

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=203651

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=205196

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=206929

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The Canbet story was the best of the bunch.

Obviously not a new player, why keep taking the bonuses without getting any payouts...this is very similar to the SirBet Casino thread you posted about.

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Well, in all fairness to this sports book, we have yet to hear their side to the story, which I believe they will refute and we I have a few threads that all of you should refer to before jumping to any conclusions....

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?p=809857#post809857

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=203651

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=205196

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=206929

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Geezzzz Shrink, thanks for making me feel STUPID.

To think that I actually offered this guy some advice.

I think that's awesome that y'all keep such meticulous records such that even though dozens if not hundreds of new threads get posted every day, and even though I haven't posted regularly to the Rx in at least a year, you can still call up all of my threads at the drop of a hat. Very cool...even if it was done to discredit and besmirch me!

Yes, I have had trouble with a few books in the past, but I've never lied about the details of any of my disputes, and I ain't lying about anything here either. I'm afraid there's not much I can do here, because I did consent to the bonus offers, they didn't force it on me. I haven't been reading the Rx much in the past several months ... not because I didn't always love it, but it just dropped out of my daily routine. I only signed up for this book because I remembered it had been well-regarded back in the days when I was a regular here. Had I been consulting this site in the past few months however, I would never have posted up with this book (given the threads I've seen pillorying it), let alone accept these outrageous bonuses. It was only after accepting the bonuses and thinking about what I had done that it occurred to me that their activities might be suspect, and I posted here to clarify.

What makes all this especially curious is that I tried to withdraw from this very same book several months ago. At that time, they asked for far less information (which I sent them...and incidentally, when I did most recent withdrawal request last week, they asked me to send the same stuff I sent last time and more...claiming my previous faxes were not on record or something) and said I could call back about the withdrawal "in five days". In the meantime, the $$ remained in my account...unlike the policy with a Pinnacle or a VIP, where once you request your payout, the amount are taken out of your account immediately. Of course, I blew the money in the interim. And even though that was of course my fault, I did think there was something a bit sketchy about telling someone his withdrawal was/would be processed, but leaving the $ in his account to be played with. Yes, my fault for playing instead of leaving it there...but definitely a shrewd move on their part.

Anyway. I won't name the book just yet because of the reasons cited by others in this thread. I don't want to jeopardize my $ or unfairly besmirch the book if indeed this whole bonus thing is legit.

I am however nervous, and don't know what I can do about my situation...given that I DID agree to take the bonuses! Even if I were to call them and forfeit the bonuses, wouldn't they then nullify every bet I've made since I got the bonus? That would actually not be such a terrible thing, as I've lost a ton since the bonuses were applied...but I imagine if I had won, they would nullify those winnings. Seems like a lose-lose situation...once you accept a bonus and then ask them to revoke it, if you had won, you lose your bonus plus any subsequent winnings...if you had lost, you lose your bonus and your losses would presumably stand.

For those who wanted to know the details of the offers: the first was a 25% bonus on the balance in my account. That was offered when I attempted to pull out all my $. The second offer was 100% of the $ in my account, with an extremely high rollover requirement that's gonna keep me married to them for a long time.

Call me naive...but I'd be hard-pressed to believe a book as well-known as this one would no-pay someone, no matter how much $$$ it was, and risk the complete destruction of their reputation and name. Slow-pay, maybe. Delays with bonuses and other shenanigans, okay. But have there been instances where big books just outright refused to pay a legitimate winner, and suffered as a result?

More to the point: should I be saving all my bet records from now until withdrawal time?