bigger overlays in the place pool on Derby day as the masses tend to wager across the board on their favorites or just put needless millions to Place on horses that have little chance to be there. check out these place prices on the winners and second choices last few years.
if you like a horse in the top 6 betting choices play it to place not to win and get an overlay, and cash if second place, if you like a long shot then I think gimmicks are the way to go like a rolling double or an OAKS/Derby double, those seem to give underlay payoffs to the favorites and overlays to big longshots.
some amazing place tickets include $6.20 on Smarty Jones , $8.20 with Lion Heart (even with the favorite winning the race!), an unreal $5.80 on Empire Maker (almost his win price)
Fu Peg a stunning $5.60 to place, a great $8.40 on Menefee who was post time favorite or second choice as I recall. Real Quiet $8.80 (nothing too special but the $13 on victory Gallup the 5th betting choice was stunning),
here they are below. Its a 20 horse field and the Place price of the top choices will be plenty for you to be happy wiht if you catch it 1st or 2nd.
Smarty Jones, $10.20 straight, $6.20 place, $4.80 show; Lion Heart, $8.20 place
Funny Cide, $27.60 straight, $12.40 place, $8.20 show; Empire Maker, $5.80 place
War Emblem, $43.00 straight, $22.80 place, $13.60 show; Proud Citizen, $24.60 place
Monarchos, $23.00 straight, $11.80 place, $8.80 show; Invisible Ink, $46.60 place
Fusaichi Pegasus, $6.60 straight, $5.60 place, $4.40 show
Charismatic, $64.60 straight, $27.80 place, $14.40 show; Menifee, $8.40 place,
Real Quiet, $18.80 straight, $8.80 place, $5.80 show; Victory Gallop, $13.00 place
Silver Charm, $10.00 straight, $4.80 place, $4.20 show; Captain Bodgit, $4.80 place
in that last one with Silver Charm these were the top 2 choices in only a 13 horse field with 4 of those having no shot at all to place in the race. That place price on a normal day would have been $3.80 on these two choices
if you like a horse in the top 6 betting choices play it to place not to win and get an overlay, and cash if second place, if you like a long shot then I think gimmicks are the way to go like a rolling double or an OAKS/Derby double, those seem to give underlay payoffs to the favorites and overlays to big longshots.
some amazing place tickets include $6.20 on Smarty Jones , $8.20 with Lion Heart (even with the favorite winning the race!), an unreal $5.80 on Empire Maker (almost his win price)
Fu Peg a stunning $5.60 to place, a great $8.40 on Menefee who was post time favorite or second choice as I recall. Real Quiet $8.80 (nothing too special but the $13 on victory Gallup the 5th betting choice was stunning),
here they are below. Its a 20 horse field and the Place price of the top choices will be plenty for you to be happy wiht if you catch it 1st or 2nd.
Smarty Jones, $10.20 straight, $6.20 place, $4.80 show; Lion Heart, $8.20 place
Funny Cide, $27.60 straight, $12.40 place, $8.20 show; Empire Maker, $5.80 place
War Emblem, $43.00 straight, $22.80 place, $13.60 show; Proud Citizen, $24.60 place
Monarchos, $23.00 straight, $11.80 place, $8.80 show; Invisible Ink, $46.60 place
Fusaichi Pegasus, $6.60 straight, $5.60 place, $4.40 show
Charismatic, $64.60 straight, $27.80 place, $14.40 show; Menifee, $8.40 place,
Real Quiet, $18.80 straight, $8.80 place, $5.80 show; Victory Gallop, $13.00 place
Silver Charm, $10.00 straight, $4.80 place, $4.20 show; Captain Bodgit, $4.80 place
in that last one with Silver Charm these were the top 2 choices in only a 13 horse field with 4 of those having no shot at all to place in the race. That place price on a normal day would have been $3.80 on these two choices
