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Just look at the wonders being a global hegemon can acheive. This night sky satellite image of South Korea really shows what a great, vibrant place it has become thanks to fifty years of being breastfed by the US.

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Um, please ignore the man behind the curtain, and the few million ordniary lives cast back into the Stone Age in the process of saving South Korea.


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looks like partly cloudy but a strong chance of rain down in the south!
 

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Oh, gees, P, I definitley wasn't thinking Fox. No, maybe an HBO series: Global Ironies and Other Assorted ClusterFücks for Dissection.

Or something.
 

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I love the show Phaedrus puts on, I agree it is time to take it to a network.

My fav is the amusement park for some reason. Those are just real wicked pix to me.
 

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Why Fox?......why Fox?
There's not a left wing cell nucleus in P's entire body.

He's not left and right handed, he's right and really-right handed.

So Fox sprung to mind.

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If all us RX politics anoraks were on the same TV show it would be sued for breach of copyright by Loonytunes.
 

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eekster, if you ever paid any attention, you'd notice that I seem to be about equally if not more despised by "righties" as "lefties." You want some real fun, go over to uber-recht hellhole ProtestWarrior and see some of the arguments I used to get in over there. In fact my last post there (summer '04) was in the midst of a big argument about the gold standard with a bunch of right-wing fûcktards who think that Keynes saved the world, just like left-wing fûcktards like yourself do.

"I work for a Government I despise for ends I think criminal."

--John Maynard Keynes,
Letter to Duncan Grant, 15 December 1917

If I don't have a "left wing" in my body, why do I express admiration for such people as noted communist Kropotkin, Henry David Thoreau, Lysander Spooner, etc.

I hate "right wingers" just as much; it's just that they tend to alienate everyone else so badly that there's no need to fear a major rightie rebellion taking over the world (after all, they'll just split into supply-siders vs moderates vs Christian moralisers and then blow each other up anyway, ultimately.) Because the left is cowardly and craven and intellectually defunct by nature, its practices tend to be a lot more stealthy in practice, and advertise to a far wider demograph than the right, and therefore are a real danger (ie. "leading us down the road to serfdom," duh) for long-term interests. Lefties are fanatics -- righties just want to blow shît up and wallow in cash but only .01% of them actually believe any of the stuff coming out of their mouths. Ultimately my problem with both is the persistent staunch refusal to consider the consequences of any given policy or practice beyond lunchtime next Tuesday. I have many friends from across the spectrum; I try not to judge them for their defects.


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okey...

You like:

guns
money
slagging off every government program in the universe
guns
virtually anything capitalist
charity
guns


You detest:

taxes
free healthcare
social programs
workers rights
minimum wages
state pensions
virtually anything socialist

etc


Now maybe it's just me Mr P....but I detect a teensy bit of leaning towards the right hand side of the spectrum in the above list.

...now I might be mistaken here...some might say these are the hallmarks of a crazed right wing sociopath...but I would be content by saying that in your trousers you dress to the right.
 

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eek, just goes to show you pay as little attention to me as you do to history, politics, economics, etc.

okey...

You like:

guns
money
slagging off every government program in the universe
guns
virtually anything capitalist
charity
guns

1) "Guns" should really only figure in once, while "money" should be repeated ad infinitum. I don't even particularly like guns actually; they are however an outstandingly useful tool for the defence of home, property and liberty.

2) The only government programs that could not be more efficiently administered by private forces are those which are dependent upon the monopoly of coercive force which the state enjoys. Ergo the only government programs best administered by government are those which should not exist in the first place.

3) "Virtually anything capitalist" should read "absolutely everything capitalist."

4) Am I understanding you correctly that being an advocate of charity is in your view a bad thing?

You detest:

taxes
free healthcare
social programs
workers rights
minimum wages
state pensions
virtually anything socialist

1) Taxes are theft. I do not like thieves.

2) I have nothing against "free healthcare" any more than I have anything against unicorns -- neither exist.

3) See 2) from the previous list. Private initiatives are more than capable of meeting the goals of most social programs; the only ones that cannot be met are those whose goals are beyond the pale of reality and can only exist propped up on the implied force of the state -- i.e. those programs which should not exist.

4) I advocate the same rights for workers as I do for everyone else. The concept of "workers' rights" as some uniquely labour-related set of rights not enjoyed by non-workers is an absurdity no different from women's rights, African-Americans' rights, etc. If you are referring to the latter, then yes, I do in fact detest people who advocate fantastical rights which do not apply to others. Those are privileges not rights.

5) I have no real feeling on minimum wages either way. I think that the market very efficiently creates its own wages, and that the idea that the state can somehow magically determine a base wage that applies to all occupations in all demographs is pretty silly, but I do not "detest" minimum wages -- I just consider minimum wage laws to be exemplary of the sort of make-work nonsense in which politicians engage in order to garner political capital.

6) "Virtually anything socialist" should read "absolutely everything socialist."

Now maybe it's just me Mr P....but I detect a teensy bit of leaning towards the right hand side of the spectrum in the above list.

"Teensy bit of leaning" is not the same as you are implying above.

...now I might be mistaken here...some might say these are the hallmarks of a crazed right wing sociopath...but I would be content by saying that in your trousers you dress to the right.

Well, who is a crazed right wing sociopath? Eisenhower, Reagan and W. are all pretty much considered paragons of the right, and my characterisation of Ike as "America's last leader" notwithstanding, I have been very much at odds with the agendas of all three (each was a spend-happy statist whore with his own particular personal axe to grind -- Eisenhower was a religious wacko; Reagan, a backbiter who constantly made questionable under-the-table deals for political expediency; and W., well, you know. Violate the spirit and the intent of the Constitution with the frequency and zeal with which most other men masturbate, and you're very likely to raise Phaedrus' ire.)

So, but ok, I should have a Fox show because I'm a right-wing nutjob. OK.


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Phaedrus has struck me as a Libertarian more then a simple minded right winger. Could be wrong.
 

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I think there's a serious conflict between real Libertarianism and capitalism.

Libertarianism is a political philosophy that holds that individuals should be allowed complete freedom of action as long as they do not infringe on the freedom of others.

For a capitalist to say he's a libertarian is an oxymoron.

If there's one fundamental thing capitalists need to be successful and profitable it's a captive or underclass workforce to maximise output and minimise costs.

From SE Asian sweatshops to Indian programmers, capitalists are constantly looking for those people with the least freedom of choice and freedom of action who can maximise profitable output.
Capitalists actively seek individuals who through their circumstances and lack of choice can be exploited for the maximum profit.

A real Libertarian would be appalled by modern capitalism over the last 200 years.
 
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Apparently anarcho-capitalists oppose coercion, so goodness knows how they can make a profit. Yet another oxymoron in there...
I presume they ignore the fact that poverty is a form of coercive violence that can be used to gather a profitable workforce.

After all, if we could all truly CHOOSE, in a truly Libertarian society, then no-one would work for a fuxxing employer ever again.

He looks like a free-market fundamentalist to me.
One things for sure, he's definitely not a Libertarian (not a real one anyway).

A coercive-Libertarian?
Now there's an oxymoron for ya.
 
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If we take "The little house on the prairie" as an example.

A dude turns up in the area, chooses not to work as labour on any of the Libertarian smallholdings and decides to work his own 100 acres.
He stakes his plot and goes to work to pay its cost back and feed his family.

One week later Mr Capitalist turns up in the area, grabs 200,000 acres, because 'he needs it'... and now there's nothing left for anyone.

So the next dude that turns up has severely reduced choices.

Work FOR someone.(The capitalist is always looking for smallholders!)
Die in the gutter.
Get the heck out of the area.

And of course as we all know, any dude that demands 100 acres from Mr Capitalist for himself (to be paid off) is "...a dirty communist! It's mine! All mine!"

For libertarians, a voluntary action is one not influenced by coercion.
But the capitalist coerces labour by limiting the choices that can be made by an individual.

So while the Capitalist might be taking advantage of market forces, he sure as shít aint no Libertarian.
 

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I could be wrong, and if I am Phaedrus will sort me out I'm sure, but I think the series Deadwood on HBO typifies the world Phaedrus would like to live in. No government, no laws except for the demands of capitalism. Now you'll have to actually see the program to find out the drawbacks.
 

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