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From -164 to -225?? Am I missing an injury or something? I know Ortiz is a POS, but that's a serious move.....

<TABLE borderColor=#333333 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000066><TD class=header> Move </TD><TD class=header> Moneyline </TD><TD class=header> Spread </TD><TD class=header> Total </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
19:03:18</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 207
-225
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
19:01:06</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 211
-229
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:53:24</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 202
-220
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:52:51</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 198
-216
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:51:45</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 211
-229
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:49:33</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 202
-220
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:47:53</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 207
-225
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:46:48</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 207
-225
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-105/-105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:46:14</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 207
-225
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-107/-103</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:45:11</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 207
-225
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-102/-108</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:44:35</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 211
-229
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-104/-106</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:43:29</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:31:22</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 202
-220
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-104/-106</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:15:58</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-106/-104</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
18:13:13</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 206
-224
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-106/-104</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
17:42:26</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-106/-104</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
17:39:39</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
17:09:54</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-106/-104</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
17:09:22</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-108/-102</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
16:50:08</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-111/101</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
16:43:29</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
16:18:09</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-111/101</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
16:17:36</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-106/-104</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
16:17:04</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 197
-215
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-110/100</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
14:23:44</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 192
-210
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-110/100</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
14:14:19</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
14:08:16</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 192
-210
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-110/100</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
14:07:10</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 198
-216
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-115/105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
13:53:57</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 189
-207
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-115/105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
13:48:28</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-115/105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
101/-111</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
13:00:04</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-115/105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
12:50:07</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
12:25:54</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-115/105</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
11:57:19</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-117/107</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
11:49:02</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
11:25:57</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-117/107</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
11:22:37</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:54:35</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-117/107</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:46:50</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 0
0
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> OFF
OFF</TD><TD class=data align=middle>OFF
OFF</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:45:11</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-117/107</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-102/-108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:44:38</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 185
-201
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-117/107</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-105/-105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:44:08</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 186
-199
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-122/112</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-105/-105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:37:29</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 180
-191
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-122/112</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-105/-105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:33:05</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 174
-182
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-126/116</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-105/-105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:29:14</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 172
-180
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-126/116</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-105/-105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-04
10:04:27</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 167
-175
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-131/121</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-104/-106</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-04
09:56:12</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 167
-175
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-130/120</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-104/-106</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-03
20:02:14</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 160
-168
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-135/125</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-104/-106</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=data>2005-06-03
17:05:01</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 160
-168
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-140/130</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-104/-106</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=data>2005-06-03
16:51:15</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 156
-164
</TD><TD class=data align=middle> 1.5
-140/130</TD><TD class=data align=middle>o9.0
-104/-106</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Arizona at Philadelphia, second game

PHILADELPHIA (Ticker) - One of the National League's biggest
pitching surprises squares off against one of the league's
biggest disappointments when the Philadelphia Phillies host the
Arizona Diamondbacks in the second game of Saturday's
doubleheader.
Philadelphia's Brett Myers (4-3, 2.06 ERA) has allowed two runs
or fewer in eight of his 11 outings. The 24-year-old
righthander, who struggled with inconsistency and immaturity
over his first three seasons, has lasted at least seven innings
in seven of his last eight starts and is tied for fourth in the
major leagues with 76 strikeouts.

Myers is 1-1 with a 1.80 ERA in two career starts against the
Diamondbacks.

Arizona counters with Russ Ortiz (4-4, 5.68), who signed a
four-year, $33 million contract with Arizona in the offseason.
Ortiz compiled a solid opening month, but went 2-3 with a 7.85
ERA in May, surrendering an astounding 50 hits and 26 walks in
just 28 2/3 innings.

Ortiz, who turns 31 on Sunday, is 6-4 with a 4.58 ERA in 15
career starts against the Phillies.
 

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I don't get this line movement either. We are not even sure who is sitting for game 2.
 

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Good info Gamblingman,

But you think the boys at LVSC should've figured it into the original #? That's a pretty big scalp if you had the Phills overnight # at -164 & then takeback at +211.
 

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