What pitcher would you start if you had to win ONE game?

I'd have to go w/ Pedro.....

Sherman..... Does He Have To Be Playing Currently?

John Smoltz

Roy Halladay. Just would hope I had a better squad to go with him.

Roger Clemens...as long as he doesn't have Houston's offense behind him. If everyone was given the same defense and run support, I'd take Clemens over anyone right now. Amazing what he is doing at his age.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left>Season</TD><TD align=right> TM</TD><TD align=right> G</TD><TD align=right> GS</TD><TD align=right> CG</TD><TD align=right> SHO</TD><TD align=right> IP</TD><TD align=right> H</TD><TD align=right> R</TD><TD align=right> ER</TD><TD align=right> HR</TD><TD align=right> BB</TD><TD align=right> SO</TD><TD align=right> W</TD><TD align=right> L</TD><TD align=right> SV</TD><TD align=right>HLD</TD><TD align=right>BLSV</TD><TD align=right> ERA</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1984</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>133.1</TD><TD align=right>146</TD><TD align=right>67</TD><TD align=right>64</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>126</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>4.32</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1985</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>98.1</TD><TD align=right>83</TD><TD align=right>38</TD><TD align=right>36</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>37</TD><TD align=right>74</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.30</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1986</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>254.0</TD><TD align=right>179</TD><TD align=right>77</TD><TD align=right>70</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>67</TD><TD align=right>238</TD><TD align=right>24</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.48</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1987</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>36</TD><TD align=right>36</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>281.2</TD><TD align=right>248</TD><TD align=right>100</TD><TD align=right>93</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>83</TD><TD align=right>256</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.97</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1988</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>8</TD><TD align=right>264.0</TD><TD align=right>217</TD><TD align=right>93</TD><TD align=right>86</TD><TD align=right>17</TD><TD align=right>62</TD><TD align=right>291</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.93</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1989</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>8</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>253.1</TD><TD align=right>215</TD><TD align=right>101</TD><TD align=right>88</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>93</TD><TD align=right>230</TD><TD align=right>17</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.13</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1990</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>31</TD><TD align=right>31</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>228.1</TD><TD align=right>193</TD><TD align=right>59</TD><TD align=right>49</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>54</TD><TD align=right>209</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>1.93</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1991</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>35</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>271.1</TD><TD align=right>219</TD><TD align=right>93</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>65</TD><TD align=right>241</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.62</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1992</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>246.2</TD><TD align=right>203</TD><TD align=right>80</TD><TD align=right>66</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>62</TD><TD align=right>208</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.41</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1993</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>191.2</TD><TD align=right>175</TD><TD align=right>99</TD><TD align=right>95</TD><TD align=right>17</TD><TD align=right>67</TD><TD align=right>160</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>4.46</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1994</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>24</TD><TD align=right>24</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>170.2</TD><TD align=right>124</TD><TD align=right>62</TD><TD align=right>54</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>71</TD><TD align=right>168</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.85</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1995</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>140.0</TD><TD align=right>141</TD><TD align=right>70</TD><TD align=right>65</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>60</TD><TD align=right>132</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>4.18</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1996</TD><TD align=right>Bos</TD><TD align=right>34</TD><TD align=right>34</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>242.2</TD><TD align=right>216</TD><TD align=right>106</TD><TD align=right>98</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>106</TD><TD align=right>257</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.64</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1997</TD><TD align=right>Tor</TD><TD align=right>34</TD><TD align=right>34</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>264.0</TD><TD align=right>204</TD><TD align=right>65</TD><TD align=right>60</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>68</TD><TD align=right>292</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.05</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1998</TD><TD align=right>Tor</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>234.2</TD><TD align=right>169</TD><TD align=right>78</TD><TD align=right>69</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>88</TD><TD align=right>271</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.65</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1999</TD><TD align=right>NYY</TD><TD align=right>30</TD><TD align=right>30</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>187.2</TD><TD align=right>185</TD><TD align=right>101</TD><TD align=right>96</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>163</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>4.60</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2000</TD><TD align=right>NYY</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>204.1</TD><TD align=right>184</TD><TD align=right>96</TD><TD align=right>84</TD><TD align=right>26</TD><TD align=right>84</TD><TD align=right>188</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>8</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.70</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2001</TD><TD align=right>NYY</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>220.1</TD><TD align=right>205</TD><TD align=right>94</TD><TD align=right>86</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>72</TD><TD align=right>213</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.51</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD align=right>NYY</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>180.0</TD><TD align=right>172</TD><TD align=right>94</TD><TD align=right>87</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>63</TD><TD align=right>192</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>4.35</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=right>NYY</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>211.2</TD><TD align=right>199</TD><TD align=right>99</TD><TD align=right>92</TD><TD align=right>24</TD><TD align=right>58</TD><TD align=right>190</TD><TD align=right>17</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.91</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=right>Hou</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>214.1</TD><TD align=right>169</TD><TD align=right>76</TD><TD align=right>71</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>218</TD><TD align=right>18</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>2.98</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=right>Hou</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>101.0</TD><TD align=right>66</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>17</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>30</TD><TD align=right>97</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>1.52</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left>Total</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>655</TD><TD align=right>654</TD><TD align=right>117</TD><TD align=right>46</TD><TD align=right>4594.0</TD><TD align=right>3912</TD><TD align=right>1767</TD><TD align=right>1605</TD><TD align=right>340</TD><TD align=right>1488</TD><TD align=right>4414</TD><TD align=right>334</TD><TD align=right>167</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>3.14</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Clemens is amazing but for the one game thing, I'd take Pedro..at least for now.

would have to go with The Rocket also. His record speaks for itself

SHAWN GOTTI said:

Sherman..... Does He Have To Be Playing Currently?

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well, that's what i was thinking shawn, but give me both, current and of all time....

for those saying the rocket, i thought about both Pedro and Roger and then quickly realized, for one game, Pedro gives you a better shot, and this is all assuming all things being equal, proper rest, no injuries, etc....

rocket has been hit much harder at times then Pedro EVER was!

WildBill said:

Roy Halladay. Just would hope I had a better squad to go with him.

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i agree roy would be top group, but #1, you sure?

choptalk said:

John Smoltz

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Choptalk, I love ya!

but do all your answers HAVE to be Braves players? :lolBIG:

Clemens:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR align=right bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left>YEAR</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>CG</TD><TD>IP</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>SO</TD><TD>K/9</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>Sv</TD><TD>P/GS</TD><TD>WHIP</TD><TD>BAA</TD><TD>ERA</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>101.0</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>8.64</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>96.1</TD><TD>0.95</TD><TD>.182</TD><TD>1.51</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Pedro:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR align=right bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left>YEAR</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>CG</TD><TD>IP</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>SO</TD><TD>K/9</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>Sv</TD><TD>P/GS</TD><TD>WHIP</TD><TD>BAA</TD><TD>ERA</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>101.0</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>10.16</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>100.0</TD><TD>0.78</TD><TD>.172</TD><TD>2.76</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Both guys have been impressive so far...no doubt about that. It is scary to think what kind of career ERA's these 2 would have if they pitched their entire career's in the National League.

Are you guys serious ? Koufax in his prime is a no brainer !

kermit16 said:

Are you guys serious ? Koufax in his prime is a no brainer !

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Impossible to compare eras in my opinion...I was just going off of guys still active.

I'd take Cy Young just for being great enough to have the award named after him.

:lolBIG:

sherman said:

i agree roy would be top group, but #1, you sure?

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I assumed you were asking based on players at their current age. Why not Halladay, the guy is 10-4. In his 4 losses the Jays have scored a total of 4 runs. He has been a dominant pitcher for years now despite playing for a mediocre team. He is one of those guys you figure will eventually sign a big contract for a bigger stage team and will suddenly be discovered by the media. But right now no doubt if I was building a staff he is my number one without question.

sherman said:

Choptalk, I love ya!

but do all your answers HAVE to be Braves players? :lolBIG:

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:lolBIG:

All Time I Say Kofax........... Current..............i Guess Pedro!!!

WildBill said:

I assumed you were asking based on players at their current age. Why not Halladay, the guy is 10-4. In his 4 losses the Jays have scored a total of 4 runs. He has been a dominant pitcher for years now despite playing for a mediocre team. He is one of those guys you figure will eventually sign a big contract for a bigger stage team and will suddenly be discovered by the media. But right now no doubt if I was building a staff he is my number one without question.

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ok, i'd still go with pedro, but halladay is up there...

No one's mentioned the dude I thought of immediately...

One game... Gimme the nastiest lefty in baseball...

Johan Santana

Johan Sebestian Bach Santana