Royal is the best book alive

riverboatgambler · Jun 23, 2005

I love royal. I have played with them for over 5 years. Sometimes i win and sometimes i lose but they have always paid me. I just think its important for me to state my personal experience with them over the years. This year they had a nba contest giving away 20 dimes for picking the nba finalists and number of games it will go.

They give a nice 20% bonus and a 20% reload bonus with a fair 5 time rollover. Please do not bash me I am just a guy who loves royal and never been stiffed by them or jerked around like i have with many other books some of whom advertise here. I am not a shill. Yes it is my first post but that really should not matter. I am willing to post my home phone number up if the moderators will let me to prove i am not a shill.

This is not an advertisement just a player who loves this book because they give you a chance to beat them with a fair bonus with a fair rollover and they have always paid me when they said they would.

I want this book to stick around and be as strong as possible. Posters if you are looking for a great book maybe you could give royal a chance.

To prove I am not a shill i will mention some other books and my personal experiences.

Pinnacle great but no reload bonus
olympic solid but 20 cent baseball line sucks

mybookie.com shadiest book on earth will screw over any way they know how.

bcn if you bet over a dime will kick you out and revoke bonus
wsex no bonus.

Please posters do not play with any company who does not give you some sort of fair bonus. These books can make money by giving large bonuses because of volume please do not think otherwise or you are a fool. If a book gives a 20% bonus with a five time rollover for example if you deposit $1000 they will give you $200. 5 time rollover will require $6000 worth of action. Assuming the standard 5% take a book makes on your money they will have made $300 but they only gave you a bonus of $200 for a $100 profit. You see although bonuses cut into a books profit they can still make $100 for every $6000 booked. Due to the internet, these books are able to book volume that vegas could only dream of.

This is why it really pisses me off when people play with books like canbet.com who only give a $100 bonus and wsex and rio and skybook who only give a 10% bonus with a 10 time rollover. You are not getting a good bang for your buck and you are getting screwed. Please posters I beg you please keep playing with books who give you a solid fair bonus and give you a fighting chance. Later

Lawrence · Jun 23, 2005

Bonuses are far down the list of things I look at when looking for a new book to post up at...

JayC · Jun 23, 2005

$100 is correct for the expected gross revenue from that bonus. Do you know that the cost of getting that money into your account may cost the book between $50 and $60? What about the cost of servicing your account? The cost of running the operation? How much do you think is left over after expenses with a 20% bonus and a 5x rollover?

Unrelated to your bonus comments, Royal is a slow paying, garbage operation, that's the bottom line.

ProPokerPlayer · Jun 23, 2005

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RobFunk · Jun 23, 2005

Agree with Jay, and he would know best.

Don't take this personally Riverboatgambler, but that is a very suspect first post to make here. Especially if you have seen the threads and posts regarding Royal in the past, from a host of respected guys.

TOW · Jun 23, 2005

RBG,

You forgot to mention the juiciest bonus Royal offers: 100% to cancel your withdrawal request .......

btw, let me show you what Tej does when a player "dares" to request a payout....:tongue:

Lawrence · Jun 23, 2005

not to mention their thuggish-ruggish strongarm tactics...

Doug · Jun 23, 2005

:lolBIG:

BAUS · Jun 23, 2005

They have always paid me within 24 hours of payout request to Neteller.

BAUS

G.MONEY · Jun 23, 2005

This should be moved to the RR now.....Because when the later crew of posters get a hold of this it will not be pretty........G.

ClipJoint · Jun 23, 2005

Jay C said:
$100 is correct for the expected gross revenue from that bonus. Do you know that the cost of getting that money into your account may cost the book between $50 and $60? What about the cost of servicing your account? The cost of running the operation? How much do you think is left over after expenses with a 20% bonus and a 5x rollover?

Unrelated to your bonus comments, Royal is a slow paying, garbage operation, that's the bottom line.

Jay C...player acquisition costs are much higher these days. $50 or $60 may have been the norm when you were offshore, but the player acquisition costs these days are much closer to $500 than $50. The last I heard was $300 and that was close to a year ago.

:monsters-

JayC · Jun 23, 2005

I was referring to the cost of moving money being $50-$60, it might be higher today. Are you trying to say it's worth it to sign the customer up even if it's just a break even proposition since the player acquisition cost is so high?

If so, I will tell you why that is wrong in this case. When you gain a customer who is there just for the bonus, you never really acquire that customer. He is constantly seeking the next bonus. So, you are just renting him. To the bonus shopper, you are only as good as your latest bonus.

If the bonus is all that brought him in there, or justified the extra known risk of having money at a certain book, there is nothing to keep them there unless they are offered a bonus again.

PS- Any book owned by Tej should be avoided at all costs.

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Journeyman · Jun 23, 2005

Remember the guy in China???

what was it he paid in fees to get his money sent to him, it was like 40% of his payout, something unbelievably absurd...not too mention the taunting that Royal customer service rep did to that guy on the instant messages....that was the worst hatchet job I have seen yet.

Doug · Jun 23, 2005

Shit books need to give big bonuses because they are SHIT books. Everybody plays at Pinnacle, with only small one-time bonus.

ClipJoint · Jun 23, 2005

Jay C said:
I was referring to the cost of moving money being $50-$60, it might be higher today. Are you trying to say it's worth it to sign the customer up even if it's just a break even proposition since the player acquisition cost is so high?

Not at all...I was pointing out Royal was losing a lot more than if player acquisition costs were that low.

Royal is the worst book online in my opinion because Tej intentionally steals. At least these start ups that go under had a plan to pay people.

trytrytry · Jun 23, 2005

i got a free smoked turkey from them and I am lifetime up at Royal. I Was able to get NEtellers out when asked. During NFL they will be slow to move a line that is near a pick em that is moving like crazy everywhere else (Royal came on here one and said that is a form of promotion, whatever , when they do it it leads to great middles with the money lines so look for that in the Fall). They had a few contests in the past at the Rx like a NASCAR contest. But recent record has sunk sunk sunk as can be seen my multiple threads here at the RX and elsewhere. The Shrink has really bashed them hard here on the forum. i think they have a shot to move back up up up but Im not funded there now.

wilheim · Jun 23, 2005

Ghost

Riverboat gambler is 58% systems poster who was propping Royal a few weeks ago.

wil.

vegasisstilldead · Jun 23, 2005

wilheim said:
Riverboat gambler is 58% systems poster who was propping Royal a few weeks ago.

wil.

I don't know wil, he doesn't sound like a tout to me

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maxdemo · Jun 23, 2005

Never played there and never will :103631605

ChuckSims · Jun 23, 2005

Thanks wilheim for quickly exposing the fraud. For any newbies here, stay as far away as possible from Royal Sports. They are a lying, stalling, book. One of the owners is TEJ, a well known crook.