Is Royal responsible to Tej's victims?

carryback · Jul 6, 2005

A few years ago crooked Tej stole money from me at Pyramid while I was attempting to recover from an already bad experience at a place called Richmond Hill. What happened was that I was ripped at R.H. and I received a call from Pyramid offering me an opportunity to recover. This was a major issue a few years and the details were posted. Little did I know at the time that the whole thing was one big conspiracy to scam me. R.H and Pyramid were working together. Now that Tej is a principle at Royal, I think that Royal is responsible and owes me the money Tej stole.

I have an account at Royal and as a matter of fact, Royal has treated me well. Since I have known Tej has been affiliated with Royal I have stayed away, however, I believe Royal owes me and I would like to collect.

I like to know what you think regarding this case. Does Royal have the moral obligation to pay me?

Fishhead · Jul 6, 2005

First off, has it even be proven who owns Royal for SURE?

I know I personally have no proff, but perhaps others do.

Secondly, even if an owner from a previous book did stiff you, I dont believe you would have any recourse at a new book they opened for them to pay you..............although morally they probably should if you could prove it.

clevfan · Jul 6, 2005

How many posting handles do you have here carryback? To others that don't know who carryback is he used to be bettor1: http://forum.therx.com/search.php?searchid=158299

TOW · Jul 6, 2005

From a legal standpoint you have no recourse. From a moral standpoint its up to Kholi to decide if he wants to amend his past or not.

Fish, Tej Kholi is the sole owner of Royal Sports. His Curacao based Company, Cometa N.V. (Kholi sole UBO) purchased the assets of Royal Sports in the summer of 2003.

Doug · Jul 6, 2005

If TEJ screwed people before and owns Royal he's responsible, IMO. I never heard Royal deny it, so I believe it.

Fishhead · Jul 6, 2005

TOW said:
Fish, Tej Kholi is the sole owner of Royal Sports. His Curacao based Company, Cometa N.V. (Kholi sole UBO) purchased the assets of Royal Sports in the summer of 2003.

For those that would like to take TOW's word on this, there ya go.

Thanks TOW for sharing.

-Fish-

ClipJoint · Jul 6, 2005

How would he not be responsible? He took bets and didn't pay.

So if your local moves to another town and he owes you money, he can just wipe the slate clean because he gets a new phone number?

Bullshit...

Journeyman · Jul 6, 2005

I'm sure TOE has no reason to make Royal look bad being an ex-employee ...I would prefer to see an unbiased opinion, on who owns Royal...they still suck .

TOW · Jul 6, 2005

Clip,

LEGALLY the player has NO recourse, since the legal entity running the business that stiffed the player is different from the one that runs Royal.

Morally he is responsible, but its his choice to amend or not.

Fishhead · Jul 6, 2005

Clip Joint said:
How would he not be responsible? He took bets and didn't pay.

So if your local moves to another town and he owes you money, he can just wipe the slate clean because he gets a new phone number?

Bullshit...

True, but the sad fact is this stuff occurs in all types of businesses in this country, not just gambling related............and customers are left out in the cold.

I think this happens quite frequently in the auto repair business.

ClipJoint · Jul 6, 2005

TOW said:
Clip,

LEGALLY the player has NO recourse, since the legal entity running the business that stiffed the player is different from the one that runs Royal.

Morally he is responsible, but its his choice to amend or not.

Legally, players have no recourse in almost every situation. They aren't suppose to be gambling.

The same is true with a local...what are you going to do legally? Nothing. That doesn't mean your local doesn't owe you money.

TOW · Jul 6, 2005

Jman,

I hate to see Royal in the trash. I have spent 481 days at the helm of that Company..certainly not to see it going down the drain two years after I left.

Yet, if players want information they are entitled to receive it.

Thank you for your professional comment.

Journeyman · Jul 6, 2005

Thank you as well for your professional actions, follower....it was even more professional when you and poster "Intuition Bet" would play patty cake everyday....very professional for a man running Royal :103631605

carryback · Jul 6, 2005

I was having log in problems, that is why the two id's. That's all that I know of. Keep in mind those two id's originated over the course of several years.

I have been trying to post here occasionally without success for a while and just the other day, after contacting a mod, was i able to activate carryback.

Best,

Minnow · Jul 6, 2005

carryback/bettor1/DM, Royal bailed you out at both CSI and ewinner. I am not sure of the details of the CSI deal, but you were one of the dupe ip guys in the ewinner scam, and Royal gave you a deal for that too. So yeah, I'm quite sure they owe you and your partner(s) another bundle.

TOW · Jul 6, 2005

Minnow is correct. Royal bailed bettor1, along with other 5 players, out of EWinner. I'm not aware about CSI since it must have taken place after i left.

Minnow · Jul 6, 2005

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carryback · Jul 6, 2005

Yup,

I said I have had good relations with Royal. They have helped me and now I am hugely dissapointed that they are associated with Tej.

By the way, for what it's worth, I am now a minnow in the sports betting world, no longer a shark.

In the past, I was mostly in it for arbitrage and now that I've used up most all my bonuses, the arbitrage profit has been reduced, ergo reduced activity on my part. Nonetheless, the facts are the facts, Tej owes me.

Best to all.

clevfan · Jul 6, 2005

interesting read on carryback/bettor1

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=202027http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=202027&highlight=david

ChuckSims · Jul 6, 2005

Its no use asking TEJ for the money he stole from you while he ran his numerous scams prior to his taking control of Royal. He's already done time for scamming people in the USA. Lets concentrate on making sure he does'nt get away with ripping off people at Royal. Only one sure way of that happening, DO NOT SEND YOUR MONEY TO THIS EX-CON!!