Very early Heisman predictions, what is the word around college football?

A dangerous weapon OSU Ted Ginn Jr. my pick for 2005 Heisman Trophy....you can only hope to contain him

Drew Tate, QB IOWA, has to be a strong contender.................crowd pleaser.

How can you bet against an SC player? The media darlings. Not that I think either candidate is the best, but lets face it you play in LA for the defending champs on a team that might win it all yet again. You do the math...

WildBill said:

How can you bet against an SC player? The media darlings. Not that I think either candidate is the best, but lets face it you play in LA for the defending champs on a team that might win it all yet again. You do the math...

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Funny how it has changed back to the west coast getting some national ink... there for a while the Pac Ten players were at a disadvantage over the past 10 years or so, prior to USC's re-emergence to the top of college football.

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>1982</TD><TD>Herschel Walker, Georgia, RB</TD><TD>John Elway, Stanford, QB</TD><TD>Eric Dickerson, SMU, RB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1983</TD><TD>Mike Rozier, Nebraska, RB</TD><TD>Steve Young, BYU, QB</TD><TD>Doug Flutie, Boston College, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1984</TD><TD>Doug Flutie, Boston College, QB</TD><TD>Keith Byars, Ohio St., RB</TD><TD>Robbie Bosco, BYU, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1985</TD><TD>Bo Jackson, Auburn, RB</TD><TD>Chuck Long, Iowa, QB</TD><TD>Robbie Bosco, BYU, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1986</TD><TD>Vinny Testaverde, Miami-FL, QB</TD><TD>Paul Palmer, Temple, RB</TD><TD>Jim Harbaugh, Michigan, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1987</TD><TD>Tim Brown, Notre Dame, WR</TD><TD>Don McPherson, Syracuse, QB</TD><TD>Gordie Lockbaum, Holy Cross, WR-DB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1988</TD><TD>Barry Sanders, Oklahoma St., RB</TD><TD>Rodney Peete, USC, QB</TD><TD>Troy Aikman, UCLA, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1989</TD><TD>Andre Ware, Houston, QB</TD><TD>Anthony Thompson, Ind., RB</TD><TD>Major Harris, West Va., QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1990</TD><TD>Ty Detmer, BYU, QB</TD><TD>Rocket Ismail, Notre Dame, FL</TD><TD>Eric Bieniemy, Colorado, RB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1991</TD><TD>Desmond Howard, Michigan, WR</TD><TD>Casey Weldon, Florida St., QB</TD><TD>Ty Detmer, BYU, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1992</TD><TD>Gino Torretta, Miami-FL, QB</TD><TD>Marshall Faulk, San Diego St., RB</TD><TD>Garrison Hearst, Georgia, RB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1993</TD><TD>Charlie Ward, Florida St., QB</TD><TD>Heath Shuler, Tennessee, QB</TD><TD>David Palmer, Alabama, RB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1994</TD><TD>Rashaan Salaam, Colorado, RB</TD><TD>Ki-Jana Carter, Penn St., RB</TD><TD>Steve McNair, Alcorn St., QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1995</TD><TD>Eddie George, Ohio St., RB</TD><TD>Tommie Frazier, Nebraska, QB</TD><TD>Danny Wuerffel, Florida, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1996</TD><TD>Danny Wuerffel, Florida, QB</TD><TD>Troy Davis, Iowa St., RB</TD><TD>Jake Plummer, Arizona St., QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1997</TD><TD>Charles Woodson, Michigan, DB-WR</TD><TD>Peyton Manning, Tennessee, QB</TD><TD>Ryan Leaf, Washington St., QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1998</TD><TD>Ricky Williams, Texas, RB</TD><TD>Michael Bishop, Kansas St., QB</TD><TD>Cade McNown, UCLA, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>1999</TD><TD>Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, RB</TD><TD>Joe Hamilton, Ga. Tech, QB</TD><TD>Michael Vick, Va. Tech, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>2000</TD><TD>Chris Weinke, Florida St., QB</TD><TD>Josh Heupel, Oklahoma, QB</TD><TD>Drew Brees, Purdue, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>2001</TD><TD>Eric Crouch, Nebraska, QB</TD><TD>Rex Grossman, Florida, QB</TD><TD>Ken Dorsey, Miami, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>2002</TD><TD>Carson Palmer, Southern Cal, QB</TD><TD>Brad Banks, Iowa, QB</TD><TD>Larry Johnson, Penn St., RB</TD></TR><TR><TD>2003</TD><TD>Jason White, Oklahoma, QB</TD><TD>Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh, WR</TD><TD>Eli Manning, Mississippi, QB</TD></TR><TR><TD>2004</TD><TD>Matt Leinart, Southern Cal, QB</TD><TD>Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, RB</TD><TD>Jason White, Oklahoma, QB</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Note how much better the NFL careers have been of the guys who finished number two, not number one.

As you can see the Heisman wiiner has very rarely been on a west coast team since the early 80's.

Just imagine if Ginn Jr. played on an explosive offensive team, or say a team like Boise State or Utah (last yr) ....against that competition, he would shatter all receiving records.

WildBill said:

Note how much better the NFL careers have been of the guys who finished number two, not number one.

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Looking ...........don't see it.

I don't see it either really Bill....Elway, Young, Faulk, Peyton.

Watch out for Chris Leak in Urban Meyer's system. He will put up ridiculous numbers.

I hope Leak shows up this year Clipper...

I wish the guy was a little more 'enthused' on the field..he seems to be in a daze at times....he's a Junior now its his time to shine, Meyer will look like a genius but this team was very close last year....The Tenn game was stolen from them on a BS call...they didn't catch many breaks....look out for the Gators.

Anyone with half a clue knows with or without Urban Meyer, this Florida team is loaded. But like you said, he will likely get the credit. That team was so young and already a few plays away from being a title contender. This year is their year.

Its wide open after USC, the Gators could climb all the way to the top IMO...Leak reminds me so much of Charlie Ward, but a much stronger arm.

This year Bush gets the Heisman but Ginn Jr. was one of the most exciting player in college football last year and he can only get better!

Adrian Peterson.


I think Bush is great in his own right but split votes amongst him and Linehart will cost him. Besides the other guy (is it white?) at RB will cut into his stats.

Reggie Bush is another one...I think Leinhart will be overlooked some, after winning it...I doubt the committee would give it to him back to back unless its just overwhelmingly obvious.... USC is still the top dog so he will be sitting there in NYC

I see Ginn Jr as the most talented player in the nation , his position and teams lack of a great offense will hurt him for sure.... Tate, is definitely going to be there too barring injury.

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I see Ginn Jr as the most talented player in the nation , his position and teams lack of a great offense will hurt him for sure...

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Better than Bush?!?!

You East Coast Clipper Stumper! :finger:

Aside from the obvious choices Peterson & Leinart, I think Vince Young's going to have a big year.

Clip Joint said:

Watch out for Chris Leak in Urban Meyer's system. He will put up ridiculous numbers.

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I agree, as a longshot I like Maroney also with that line they have and no more Barber.