Was Gerry Cooney the greatest managed fighter ever?

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Gerry Cooney was managed by the wacko twins Dennis Rappaport and Mike Jones who previous to Cooney were involved with Ronnie Harris, Billy Costello and Howard Davis. For those of you that remember the career of Cooney I want to ask was Cooney the greatest or worst managed fighter ever? If Cooney was nothing but ordinary was it a miracle that he was able to fight a dominant champion like Larry Holmes for a ten million dollar each purse parity or was this a fighter that just needed to come up a bit more slowly and who he himself could have become a dominant champion?

When I look back at how well Cooney did against Holmes with limited big fight experience I see a fighter that completly fell apart after his first loss due to an extremely fragile ego. The punch and heart were there but mentally he just fell apart and was never the same after Holmes.

I remember another fighter named Alex Garcia who was offered over a million dollars to fight both George Foreman and Riddick Bowe and both times his management turned it down saying he was not ready. Garcia lost a keep busy fight and continued to lose. Ended up not fightring for much more than a few thousand dollars a fight. Bottom line you may have but one shot for a payday be ready and don't let it pass you up.
 

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I don't mean to change the subjecy, but how that white-boy George Chuvalo ?

I caught him fighting Ali on ESPNC. A canadian, I believe, he fought all the big fighters of the era, didn't win much, but I believe he was never knocked down in his career. That's pretty amazing. The guy could sure take a punch. I think he met some tragic end, maybe suicide ?

He's before my time, a bit. Anybody remember him ?
 

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i believe it was chuvalos son who comitted suicide due to drug problems. chuvallo tuff but not much skill. kind of like a wepner, or bonavena type of fighter.
 

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Speaking of Bonavena. Wasn't he shot and killed during his career? Anybody know what the story was there? Argentinian wasn't he?
 

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Here's a bio from the CBC website:

George Chuvalo is the greatest Canadian Heavyweight champion of all-time. Noted for his toughness, he fought all the greats and nobody – not Joe Frazier, George Foreman or even Muhammad Ali – ever knocked him out. Outside the ring, however, life dealt Chuvalo several crushing body blows: he lost three sons to drug addiction and his wife to suicide. Yet, just like in the ring, Chuvalo has refused to go down by using his story of personal pain to help others fight drug addiction. Remarkably George Chuvalo, the People's Champion, is still standing.

Chuvalo is still alive, and I think he just got elected to the Canadian Walk of Fame this year. Ali once called him the toughest fighter he ever faced.
 

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Bonavena was killed at the mustang ranch whorehouse I believe in the 1970's. He was shot and killed by a security guard who served time in prison for ivoluntary manslaughter. bonavena was said to be having an affair with the brothel owners wife at the time he was killed. the owners name was joe conforti who the security guard worked for. not sure if the mustang ranch was in vegas or reno.
 

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I remember being a kid when Cooney fought Holmes, and my mother wasn't interested in sports and obviously wouldn't let get it/watch it. My backup plan ended up being calling a sportsline that updated after each round. Poor Cooney never had a chance against that Holmes jab, just as so many other Holmes oppenents found out.......
 

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do you know without the point deductions the judges have cooney ahead going into the last few rounds.
 

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Larry Holmes KO 13 Gerry Conney
June 11, 1982

Larry Holmes, the reigning heavyweight champion with a
39-0 record, was still fighting in the shadow of Muhammad
Ali and was not receiving the recognition he deserved. Gerry Cooney, a white Irish kid from New York with a record of
25-0 and called "The Great White Hope," quickly became a favorite among the fans who were searching for a white fighter who could become heavyweight king. The pre-fight racial hostility that existed amongst the camps heightened the interest in the fight, which would gross more money than any other sporting event of its time.

As for the fight itself, Holmes and Cooney battled it out for the first 12 rounds of a scheduled 15-round bout. By the end of round 12, Cooney was badly cut and fatigued. He began the 13th round but soon became defenseless. At that point, Victor Valle, Cooney's trainer, stepped into the ring to stop the fight. And although Holmes' credible reign as heavyweight champion lasted 7 1/2 years, he never seemed to get out of the shadow of Ali. As for Cooney, the loss to Holmes sent him into a downward spiral, and he would fight just five more times before retiring in 1990.

Cooney's manager, Dennis Rappaport: "We had the attraction. Larry couldn't put rear ends in seats. Gerry Cooney could. Not because he was white, but because he was right."

Gerry Cooney: "I grew up in a household where I learned five things from my old man. You know what they were? You're no good. You're a failure. You're not going to amount to anything. Don't trust nobody, and don't tell nobody your business. When I lost to Larry Holmes in 1982, I felt all five of those things smacked me right across the face. I had to deal with them."
 

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