In your opinion, which involves more skill? For me, I believe cash games involve more skill than tourneys. I love playing tourneys but when it boils down to it, you have to develop a more skilled poker game if you're going to beat the cash games consistently. I usually play tourneys if I want to relax without much thinking. However when playing cash games, it seems like I have to be totally on top of my game. Particularly with live cash games.
I greatly prefer tourneys also. It is two completely different skills to play tourneys vs cash games. Personally I only have tourney skills as I haven't played many cash games. I find that tourneys are a lot more fun as you can have the big cash at the end if you win. It is an interesting question though.
pokerpills said:
Interesting, is this a private game?
This insurance feature has been used by the high rolling pros for a long time. The players not in the hand might offer insurance (in other words take a piece of the action). Typically the insurer gets better than the real odds and the insuree reduces the variance that comes with bad beats.
Woody0 said:
It's a private cardroom. The insurance makes it a really cool game. The insurance is first offered to the two players in the hand but if one negates it, the house will always cover it. When you're all in with no more money left in your pockets, this insurance feature definitely helps. It relieves the pressure of a suck out. You can secure the pot with a fee depending on how many outs the other person has. The insurer always has better odds but not much. From what I've seen, all cardrooms should offer this because in the long run, it makes them money.
Depends really. Tournaments are a mixed bag. They get players to play a bit more tightly I believe, which of course you can exploit. They require a lot more thinking on the fly and a lot more feeling out of the opponents. In most cash games, as long as you stay at say $15-30 and under, you can just work on learning the key skills and discipline and be a long-term winner without that much risk. So if you are an improviser, someone who loves the challenge, then tournaments are for you. Cash games are good if you need a salary, or are willing to put in the time upfront to get an easier long-term "dividend" if you will.
In cash games, you can make a mistake here and there and bounce back and recoup your losses. You have to be VERY regimented in a tourney to finish with a profit.
Thats not actually true, in the short run you may think you are recouping your losses, but in reality, since it is a cash game, every mistake is costing you money. Its actually true in tourneys, that you can make a mistake and recoup, you can make a mistake in a tourney, as long as its not a major one, and if you arent eliminated you are ok. Cash game mistakes are black and white, you can identify them with a number, X mistake cost me Y dollars. In a tourney, as long as you arent out, its a grey area.
Thats not actually true, in the short run you may think you are recouping your losses, but in reality, since it is a cash game, every mistake is costing you money. Its actually true in tourneys, that you can make a mistake and recoup, you can make a mistake in a tourney, as long as its not a major one, and if you arent eliminated you are ok. Cash game mistakes are black and white, you can identify them with a number, X mistake cost me Y dollars. In a tourney, as long as you arent out, its a grey area.
cash games require more skill. Tournaments are glorified lotteries, especially with blinds and levels that escalate too fast. Take for instance the WSOP main event finishing today, the levels are 100 minutes long and go up very slow [dont double] and every one seems to be in ageement that the winner will have to be lucky. The highly skilled plyers arent able to overcome the luck factor with so many entries. Compare that to most tournys with levels doubling every 15 minutes and you see how any one can win, and this is what makes them so popular.
AlSwearengen said:
Somewhat flawed logic. Over the course of one or even a handful of tourneys this is somewhat true but the best players have a huge overlay in these tourneys. Given a thousand tourneys they will come out way ahead and the worse players will get their asses kicked bad. I think it is a deal where those that prefer cash games, say that cash games require more skill, when that is stupid to say because once again they are completely different skills.
AlSwearengen said:
first of all the levels are 2 hours long....they were 100 minutes during the first day for each flight....
any player except the top notch pros is usually either good at tourneys or cash games....RARELY you see people who are good at both.....it's two different games which you can't compare.........i can't beat any kind of cash game but i can beat tourneys at all the levels online.
