SBR upgrades/downgrades

I hope it's ok to post about the competition here, if not, please delete and I wont bring it up again.

On to the point, I just hit the u/d archives over there and found some strange stuff on a few books.

Royal- This book is constantly being regraded. I think it's safe to say Royal is a turd, why not keep it low until they PROVE they deserve an upgrade? going from F to D to F+ to D- every 6 weeks is beyond silly.

Mybookie, canbet, and bodog seem to have a lot of movement as well. Can anyone explain this to me?

I also found it strange the Hollywood was downgraded from A+ to A last Dec (I think they've been moved back up? but thats not the point). What does a book do to go from great x10 to great x9?

This is probably a stupid post. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if these grades mean anything at all.

It's not at all surprising that Royal has had a lot of movement. I'm sure they've been on a ratings rollercoaster for a couple years solid.

I think the Canbet issue was a one time 3-5 day period where their Neteller went dry several months ago.

I'd have to do some digging to refresh my memory on what was going on with the others during the timeframe.

The standards for the A+ group are high. The Hollywood lowering came on the last week of the NFL when their lines went up on Friday and btw there were two games Saturday.(Bodog had theirs up on Wed as a point of reference) They were not happy and the players were certainly not happy. But those things happen in this industry, we talked it out and came to an agreement on when lines should go up for the A+ group and returned their A+.

On Royal; the poster is right in hindsight. We have met with them numerous times in 3 different countries during the past 1+ year trying to work with them to get their rating up. Each time so far the progress has been short lived causing a whip-saw downgrade. But as long as Royal or any other book is willing to demonstrate improvement we have been willing to reward them with measured upgrades. But even with that approach I agree with the poster, too many rating changes on Royal.

Thanks John, that explains a lot.


Would you (or anyone) care to eloborate on the canbet movement? small one time issue, or something else? I'm thinking about opening an account there, but I can live without hijinks.

btw- the royal thing wasn't a slam, I just found it odd.

Hmm Canbet...

There was a book, a top 10 book that signed a non-disclosure looking to buy canbet in apprx. early 2003. They tipped us off that Canbet had cooked books and was bleeding terribly. Shortly after they reported huge losses, over $1million dollars a month. Then BA bought them out and their rating assumed BA's rating which was always solid. Thats from memory so may be a date or so off(old age).

SBR ratings are number 1 of all "watchdog" sites.