Has any football player in recent memory successfully pulled the 'holdout' card?

5teamparlay · Jul 21, 2005

Walker and Owens don't look like good odds to get more cash thrown at them. Last year the Bucs held firm with McKardell and he lost bunches of cash. Growing up I saw Al Harris and Todd Bell miss a Superbowl with their holdouts.
Maybe Owens should have just made it up with endorsements, I'm sure those offers are much slimmer now. He signed with a team that was good and had others to pay because they were good, figure that out idiot.

Has anybody ever successfully pulled this as a veteran?
Elway and Bo Jackson and some other dual sport athletes pulled this in another matter with leverage, but I don't think a holdout is the way to go.

HOPE HE SITS!!!!

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dmmd98 · Jul 21, 2005

How can anyone blame Jeovn Walker please tell me this. Are you telling me he is worth $600,000? If G.B isn't going to pay him a fair contract for his talent level someone else well and oh yeah Keenan McCardell lost a ton of money you sure about that? Not only did he got out that mess in Tampa he went to a winner (last year) in S.D plus he also inked to a new deal.

"Wide receiver Keenan McCardell signed a two-year contract extension with the Chargers. According to ESPN.com, the deal is worth $7.6 million, including a signing bonus of $4.1 million."

atleast 4.1 million over the 2.5 million he was due in Tampa. Yeah im sure he is crying over the money in lost in Tampa.

aceduecetrey · Jul 21, 2005

Didnt Emmitt make out?

tooran · Jul 21, 2005

I can't think of too many NFL vets who have pulled it off, but the most recent successful NFL holdout I can recall has to be Kellen Winslow. From Fanball.com:

After missing 15 practices and one scrimmage while holding out, Winslow and the Browns agreed to a six-year contract wich could be worth up to $40 million, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The deal, which makes Winslow the richest tight end in NFL history before he's even played a down, includes a $10.8 million signing bonus as part of $16.5 million in guaranteed money and a low end of $29 million

CHOPTALK · Jul 21, 2005

I dont understand why everyone always cries about the players in the NFL holding out when the team can cut a player anytime they want. There is no such thing as a contract in the NFL. It works both ways. If an NFL team can cut a player in the middle of a 5 year deal without having to pay the player than the player has the same right to hold out for more money.

This does not apply to baseball and basketball were the contracts are really contracts. But in football its anything goes.

TescoVee · Jul 21, 2005

don't forget Javon's signing bonus which is also part of his contract that he happily accepted.

profootballtalk.com reports

Walker also received a $3 million signing bonus in 2002 and a $1.3 million option bonus in 2003. Thus, under the six-year deal that Walker signed (without, as far as we know, a gun to his head), Walker essentially has received advance compensation of $716,000 for the 2005 season.

dmmd98 · Jul 21, 2005

still underpaid when you take into account Randy Moss and T.O deals Moss gets an 80 million dollar deal and T.O 50 million each with 10+ million signing bonus. While Walker isn't in that league he isn't 10 times less the players those are either. He has out played his rookie contract. I can understand people hating on T.O but with Walker even with the signing bonus he is underpaid and deserve a new deal. 6 year contracts for rookies in the NFL basically tie a player up in the prime of there careers for less than market vaule.

TescoVee · Jul 21, 2005

I agree a 6 year contract is too long. maybe his agent could have gotten him a 4 year deal with no signing bonus. would like to see someone sign that.

he had 23 catches as a rookie, guess he was overpaid that year.

dmmd98 · Jul 21, 2005

How many rookies play in the first year? He was a late first round pick on a winning team. And yes NFL teams force first rounders to sign 6 year deals if you are not a top 10 pick you really don't have a lot to say in your rookie deal.

Besides if G.B even had the slightest feeling he was overpiad in those years they would of asked him to take a pay cut or cut him outright so that is a moot point.

TescoVee · Jul 21, 2005

they seem to always overpay their defensive players the last few years so hopefully he gets his too.

just dont think holding out is the way to go. and i was playing a little devils advocate.

Im hoping Richard Seymour gets taken care of for my Pats. he is way underpaid too with 2 years left.

dmmd98 · Jul 21, 2005

I agree with you on that I generally don't think hold outs is the way to go. I just feel like Jevon has the right to secure his future for him and his family so in his case I can see his reasoning to get paid in line with other WR's in the NFL now rather than wait two years which is a lifetime in the NFL.