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<TABLE id=tblPropFut onmouseover="changeto(event, '#F6C88F')" onmouseout="changeback(event, '#EEEEEE')" cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR id=ignore0><TD colSpan=3>2005 NFL Regular Season Wins

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</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b0><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Arizona Cardinals</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>101 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -114</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>102 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +104</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b1><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Atlanta Falcons</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>103 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +117</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>104 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -127</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b2><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Baltimore Ravens</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>105 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -150</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>106 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +140</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b3><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Buffalo Bills</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>107 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +135</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>108 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -145</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b4><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Carolina Panthers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>109 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +141</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>110 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -151</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b5><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Chicago Bears</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>111 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins -149</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>112 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins +139</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b6><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Cincinnati Bengals</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>113 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -161</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>114 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +151</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b7><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Cleveland Browns</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>115 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">4.5 wins -120</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>116 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">4.5 wins +110</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b8><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Dallas Cowboys</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>117 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -114</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>118 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +104</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b9><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Denver Broncos</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>119 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -116</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>120 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +106</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b10><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Detroit Lions</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>121 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -102</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>122 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -108</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b11><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Green Bay Packers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>123 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -123</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>124 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +113</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b12><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Houston Texans</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>125 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +114</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>126 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -124</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b13><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Indianapolis Colts</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>127 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">11.5 wins -124</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>128 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">11.5 wins +114</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b14><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Jacksonville Jaguars</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>129 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -125</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>130 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +115</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b15><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Kansas City Chiefs</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>131 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -144</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>132 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +134</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b16><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Minnesota Vikings</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>135 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +108</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>136 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -118</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b17><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: New England Patriots</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>137 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">10.5 wins -119</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>138 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">10.5 wins +109</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b18><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: New Orleans Saints</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>139 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -125</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>140 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +115</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b19><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: New York Giants</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>141 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins -118</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>142 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins +108</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b20><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: New York Jets</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>143 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +130</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>144 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -140</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b21><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Oakland Raiders</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>145 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -132</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>146 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +122</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b22><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Philadelphia Eagles</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>147 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">11.5 wins -108</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>148 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">11.5 wins -102</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b23><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Pittsburgh Steelers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>149 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins -144</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>150 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">9.5 wins +134</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b24><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: St. Louis Rams</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>151 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +105</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>152 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -115</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b25><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: San Diego Chargers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>153 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8 wins -116</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>154 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8 wins +106</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b26><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: San Francisco 49ers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>155 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">4.5 wins +115</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>156 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">4.5 wins -125</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b27><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Seattle Seahawks</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>157 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins -114</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>158 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">8.5 wins +104</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b28><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Tampa Bay Buccaneers</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>159 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins -171</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>160 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins +161</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b29><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Tennessee Titans</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>161 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins +108</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>162 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">6.5 wins -118</TD></TR><TR class=CT3 id=ignore_b30><TD width="15%">Sun 9/11</TD><TD colSpan=2>Total Regular Season Wins by: Washington Redskins</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=MBB>163 Over</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins -112</TD></TR><TR class=MBB><TD width="15%"> </TD><TD class=MBB>164 Under</TD><TD class=MBB width="25%">7.5 wins +102</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Lets see how we do as a group at the end of the regular season, pick just one please, if you have something you want to say, do it elsewhere, lol, just pick one selection.

I'll take the Cardinals Under 7.5 wins +104
 

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Last season - SF was 2-14 and that was misleading - both wins took miracle comebacks in 4Q against AZ and both saw SF win by 3 in OT

this season - SF is even worse - i don't see how they can win 5 games this season which is what it would take to beat me

here is the SF sked for 2005:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Sep 11</TD><TD align=left>St. Louis</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1126469700))</SCRIPT>4:15pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Sep 18</TD><TD align=left>@Philadelphia</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1127062800))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Sep 25</TD><TD align=left>Dallas</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1127678700))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Oct 2</TD><TD align=left>@Arizona</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1128299400))</SCRIPT>8:30pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Oct 9</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1128888300))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Week 6</TD><TD align=left>BYE</TD><TD align=left></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Oct 23</TD><TD align=left>@Washington</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1130086800))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Oct 30</TD><TD align=left>Tampa Bay</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1130706900))</SCRIPT>4:15pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 6</TD><TD align=left>N.Y. Giants</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1131311100))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 13</TD><TD align=left>@Chicago</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1131904800))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 20</TD><TD align=left>Seattle</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1132520700))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 27</TD><TD align=left>@Tennessee</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1133114400))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 4</TD><TD align=left>Arizona</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1133730300))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 11</TD><TD align=left>@Seattle</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1134335100))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 18</TD><TD align=left>@Jacksonville</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1134928800))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 24</TD><TD align=left>@St. Louis</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1135447200))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Jan 1</TD><TD align=left>Houston</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1136149500))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

where do you see 5 wins? the only road game i could see them hanging close is Tennessee. now you have to find me 4 home games they can win. tampa - ok, i'll buy that. NYG - NO! Houston - ok, i'll accept that as a 50/50 game - especially since it is the last one and by then Houston will be out of the playoffs

i even hear "BYE" will be about a 7-point fave - that is how bad SF is

so where do 5 wins come from? they don't!

SF U4.5 -125

i can also see Clevelad U4.5 also happening. This season Trent Dilfer is gonna be on his back moaning and groaning more than Jenna Jameson
 

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Ravens over 9.5 wins..the team is back, healthy and with plenty more options on offense, on top of it a softer schedule , Baltimore wins a minimum of 11 games!''

This may be the best balances Ravens team ever...QB Boller will finally turn the corner.
 

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Nyg O 6.5

You guys know I'm going to bring this thread up in January. .
 

I am sorry for using the "R" word - and NOTHING EL
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rchrdschn said:
Denver over 8.5 -116

as an almost 30-year die-hard fan i hope you are right

but think you will be wrong

NEVER a good thing to "raid" a team's players - especially when that team was 4-12 last season and hired a new coach - one from the Pats

not sure what the hell Shanny is doing in denver - but from all indications - unless he advances far in the playoffs - Denver might have a new coach in 2006
 

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-Slim- said:
I'll take the Cardinals Under 7.5 wins +104

This one jumps off the page. My 5 gold star, 100% guaranted to possibly win, or your money back, pick.
 

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winkyduck said:
as an almost 30-year die-hard fan i hope you are right

but think you will be wrong

NEVER a good thing to "raid" a team's players - especially when that team was 4-12 last season and hired a new coach - one from the Pats

not sure what the hell Shanny is doing in denver - but from all indications - unless he advances far in the playoffs - Denver might have a new coach in 2006

Looking at Denver's schedule I can see 9 wins or maybe even 10 if they stay healthy. Nice bye week in the middle of the season too.
 

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Minnesota over 9.5 +108. Who else is going to get the wins in the NFC North?
 

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