Does Anyone Like the Vikings in '05?

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp05/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2123316

Good article by Clayton...I didn't realize the Vikings signed a slew of defensive playmakers for their defense. Also factor in Burleson's continued improvement (if you saw him play last year, you know he's good ), my only question is WR depth and CB depth. But when you have Smoot and Winfield as your 1-2, that's a heck of a defensive backfield. Did i mention Darren Sharper is their new safety?

Team looks more loaded than I previously thought...I could see this team winning the NFC North and challenging for a 'Bowl bid with Philly.

Will also be interested to see how well Carolina bounces back from an injury-riddled season. Think New England missing the playoffs the year after winning the Superbowl. Came back STRONG, to say the least. Could see more of the same with the Panthers...

DSethi

Dawoofdaddy · Aug 3, 2005

I see Detroit winning the division and Vikes at best a wildcard team.

TheRightWing · Aug 3, 2005

Very tricky team to figure out and yes they have picked up some key players but the coaching staff here is medioric at best so will see how they can coach with talent. On paper this team looks like 10-6 but in reality they'll be 8-8 probably.

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

I see this team doing well above 8-8. Detroit is bad until proven otherwise, historically been hit hard with the injury bug, I think they have a shot at the playoffs, but as far as division winners go...i mean Minnesota took it to Green Bay at Lambeau last year. That must do wonders for their confidence...

TheRightWing · Aug 3, 2005

you forget one thing though about that win at Green Bay.......the mooner wide receiver is in black & silver now. I agree though they could sneak up on teams but this coaching staff is lacking the skills how to press further into the playoffs if they make the Playoffs. NFC Central is the weakiest division in the NFL though.

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

Minnesota has Ted Cottrell from Buffalo, a real good D Coordinator in my eyes. TOo many people look at Mike TIce and think he's a big oaf with no skills. I'd disagree. One thing's for sure: this team will be tough and motivated. Moss was an abberation; i bet you these guys love playing for Tice.

TheRightWing · Aug 3, 2005

Nice coaches finish last in my eyes and yes the players do like him becuase he's one of them etc.But his coaching skills and decison making with the offense they had the past two years and the playoff missed a few years back with a water down NFC is not acceptable in this bleeding purple town. The fact the new owner might spend alot more than Red did on talent and coaching staff but to me these Vikings are paper champions until they lace them up.

TheRightWing · Aug 3, 2005

Moss will be missed more than you think on the field too. He was a headache off and on the field at times but he could change any game with one play!

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

Definitely agree he was a gamechanger, THE gamechanger in the NFL. but if u read that article up top, they have some playmakers on defense added. not just your above-average starters on D. These guys are playmakers and pro-bowlers.
When they're making the playoffs with a 23rd ranked D and randy moss, i think if they're a top 15 D w/o moss they still make the playoffs, not to mention the growth and experience the young WRs will gain from playing a whole year without distractions...

i just think it'll be a real interesting year for this team.

OMNIVOROUS FROG · Aug 3, 2005

The Vikes offense was pedestrian without Mossman stretching and drawing two defenders. Tice and Martz in the same, how did I get to be a head coach gang. Buying defenders and having them perform on the field, in a scheme is world's apart. Onterrio out for how long this time? Maybe they will win this junk division by default as up and comers been stuck up and coming for years, and Pack is not back. Do I like the Vikes in 05? No.

Best Wishes...oF:howdy:

TONYMONTANA · Aug 3, 2005

RIGHTWING, I disagree this team will be more relaxed without that dip chit causing problems on and off the field. His is a cancer/teamkiller. However, their head coach is a fvcking BOZO. MAY'N!!
The whole division is boring and full of half decent to terrible teams. This division is a NON-FACTOR in the PLAYOFFS. I also fell asleep writing about it.

JimmyHoffa · Aug 3, 2005

I like whatever team I have money on. Vikings: 8-8

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

As usual, health will determine the fate of every team in the NFL.
Seems like a balanced division if Grossman is on his game. Favre is Favre, plain and simple, the things he does with teh football still amaze me. I could see home teams winning 85% of the games in this division this year. just a gut feeling.

juice · Aug 3, 2005

I think Tice is worth at least one loss.
He seems lost at times, and without Moss to bail him out, who knows what he'll do.
I think the team's fate lies solely on Culpepper's shoulders. He has to have a spectacular year for them to compete. The defense will give him a little more margin of error this year, but from what I've seen of Culpepper, he makes a lot of big mistakes and seems indecisive at times.
A reflection of the coaching maybe?

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

I think Culpepper was distracted by Moss' rantings and raves. Culpepper is the undisputed leader this year. For a guy that's 6'6, 265, i think he's big enough to handle the responsibility and thrive...

ElIguana · Aug 3, 2005

It will be very interesting to see what Culpepper does w/out Moss. Moss was a playmaker, but did he & Culpepper get along, or is Daunte glad he is gone and not causing problems and distractions? The dome still gives the Vikes a great home-field advantage.

Vikes remind me of KC Chiefs this year. Both teams have high-powered offenses and borderline pathetic defenses, and have made off-season defensive aquisitions to try to remedy the problem. Chiefs drafted Derrick Johnson from Texas, bought Patrick Surtain from Dolphins and Kendrell Bell from Steelers, among other moves.

But then again, EVERY NFL team tries to remedy their weaknesses in the offseason, and not all succeed.

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

Great parallel: both are strong at similar positions, weak at similar ones, and both play in subpar divisions. Maybe as the Chiefs go, so go the Vikings...and vice versa.
Minny schedule:
Opponent Time/Result
Sep 11 Tampa Bay 1:00pm
Sep 18 @Cincinnati 1:00pm
Sep 25 New Orleans 1:00pm
Oct 2 @Atlanta 4:15pm
Week 5 BYE
Oct 16 @Chicago 1:00pm
Oct 23 Green Bay 1:00pm
Oct 30 @Carolina 1:00pm
Nov 6 Detroit 1:00pm
Nov 13 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pm
Nov 21 @Green Bay 9:00pm
Nov 27 Cleveland 1:00pm
Dec 4 @Detroit 1:00pm
Dec 11 St. Louis 1:00pm
Dec 18 Pittsburgh 1:00pm
Dec 25 @Baltimore 8:30pm
Jan 1 Chicago

not exactly a cakewalk...

KC:
N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Sep 18 @Oakland 8:30pm
Sep 26 @Denver 9:00pm
Oct 2 Philadelphia 1:00pm
Week 5 BYE
Oct 16 Washington 1:00pm
Oct 23 @Miami 1:00pm
Oct 30 @San Diego 4:05pm
Nov 6 Oakland 1:00pm
Nov 13 @Buffalo 1:00pm
Nov 20 @Houston 8:30pm
Nov 27 New England 1:00pm
Dec 4 Denver 4:15pm
Dec 11 @Dallas 4:15pm
Dec 17 @N.Y. Giants 5:00pm
Dec 24 San Diego 1:00pm
Jan 1 Cincinnati 1:00pm

seems a bit easier for them...

TheRightWing · Aug 3, 2005

and don't forget Moss was injuied and maybe still injured but the numbers he put up at 70% can't be replaced with Burrelson,Williamson, and the mix of 3rd wideouts. The new offense cordinator is very much a run the ball 1st and the passing plays will follow so I guess the question is ....will Micheal Bennet be the answer???? The defense could only get better but the real quetion mark lays on the coaching staff in my eyes.

Arodd · Aug 3, 2005

don't forget Kelly Campbell...he can be a productive guy in the WR corps...agreed that there are ?s to be answered. that schedule is making me wary as well...B'More and Pitt, brutal

oldirtyku · Aug 3, 2005

Eff the vikes... Skins in 2005! Ramesy going to the Pro bowl.

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