These are the stud starting pitchers Cardinals have beaten this year: Clemens,Pettite,Oswalt,Prior,Hudson,Schmidt,Pedro,Pavano,Beckett,Willis,Lowe,O.Perez, Sheets, Capuano ?,Peavy,etc. Probably leaving a few off and some of these guys have been beaten more than once by Cards. Idea is that Cards don't get intimidated by stud sp anymore. In fact, Card offense has been BETTER THIS YEAR statistically without Rolen,Sanders, and Walker. Mabry,Taguchi,Nunez, and rest of bench have really stepped up when they have started so I would not use starters out as an excuse as many of these bench players start more than most teams and would even without injuries as Larussa plays everyone just like Bobby Cox.