For sure...it is a tough spot for linesmakers and they got exposed in that game. Coaches and game plans play a major role in the pre season and the public basically gets access to that information at the same time as linesmakers.
There are some great opportunities to make money in the pre season from a players perspective.
There are some great opportunities to make money in the pre season from a players perspective.
Clip Joint,Clip Joint said:
A scenario, You are a book who have no opinion on a pre-season game, you chalk up Bears +1 in conjunction with others. You have not taken any significant bets when you are told X and Y books have changed the spread to Bears -3. Do you
A) leave the spread the same until you take money
B) Alter your spread in line with them -3
C) something else
winbet said:
Alot of books dry moved it to the Bears -3, if it would have been a regular season game the books would have got killed, but Preseason is no comparison to regular season, books just dont write a whole lot of action on it, me myself I dont think the books lost no where near the money one would think with the line moving from Miami -2 to the Bears -3.
Rainbow said:
Top marks Rainbow, we will have to put you in the potential bookmaker Folder. However, in principal, to a book, it matters not whether a game is pre-season or Regular, losing money is losing money and of course the lines would be keener. As a side note, you only have to look on here, where is the posts Bears +1, so I think the Books pre-empted the situation or were eating each other, an opinion people still will not accept.
Sam Odom said:
Sorry I missed your post Winbet...I stopped checking this thread.
Sam...the public was not right...the sharps were. There were far more bets on Miami than Chicago...but the smart guys were laying the real money. Squares continued to take Miami according the Wagerline (a great resource for tracking public money):
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Clip Joint said:
You have answered B because that is the logical thing to do but in your post earlier you assumed the books were compromised. I am only trying to point out that the books didnt lose a bunch on this game, your answer verifies that. As for the Sharps v Squares bout, I have said many times, to a bookmaker figures are figures, but of course most talk is about Caribbean Books who basically are betting on, will a Dog have a shit or wont he, not exactly Quantum physics.
My answer to the alleged live money website,
Am I seeing this right, are you forming an opinion or part of one, dependent on people pressing a button on a website. 7 different scenarios, 500 hits, so probably 70 odd users, some who more than likely treat it like a video game so maybe only 3 people. Tell me I have got it totally wrong and explain its virtue.
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winbet said:
Not sure where you get your reasoning, but that was not my answer. I did not see a book jump directly from Miami -1 to Miami +3. It hit every number before going to +3.
Wagerline has a large square base that competes for prizes and recognition...not sure what your analysis of the site is but it is obvious you are not in touch with Wagerline/Covers. It is a great resource to track public money.
