Eddie Murray drove in 1,917 in the 'dead ball, pre-steroid' era of baseball , Murray only drove in more than 116 RBI once in his career (124 in 1985), he was the the best RBI man of his time, and in his prime years , late 70's to early 90's, 100 RBI was still the benchmark...he also played on mainly average run-scoring teams.
I wonder how many runs these two would have drove in playing on teams that weren't peppered with players on steroids...
juice for thought :drink:
I wonder how many runs these two would have drove in playing on teams that weren't peppered with players on steroids...
juice for thought :drink:
Fishhead said:
The thing about Dwight Evans, he never won a ring (in his case and Jim Rice a ring may have put them over the top) Evans was more of a 'longevity type' player (when measuring whether he was a Hall of famer)
Here's how I see Evans ...I think he is just marginally off HOF criteria, very close too, but just falls short of Hall of Fame...
What kills him..no ring, he didn't drive in more than 71 runs until his career was half over, a somewhat low .271 career average, combining this with his great arm and glove and all this adds up to about 85% of what a hall of famer is IMHO...and I liked Evans very much!
All of that combined with playing in the shadow of Yaz, Rice, Lynn, Fisk, he was always the 3rd or 4th bat on those run-scoring teams...
Great player? no, very good player? yes! He was a gamer and a winning ballplayer...
I still can't vote him in Fishstremski
I'd still put Jim Rice in over Dewey
Its kind of ironic when you look up Evans career stats in the almanac they list these players as 'similar'
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Similar Batters
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- Chili Davis (879)
- Billy Williams (873) *
- Tony Perez (867) *
- Dave Parker (853)
- Al Kaline (845) *
- Darrell Evans (843)
- Harold Baines (840)
- Joe Carter (836)
- Andre Dawson (834)
- Jim Rice (831)
Journeyman said:Its kind of ironic when you look up Evans career stats in the almanac they list these players as 'similar'
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3 HOF'ers along with Jim Rice too
- Chili Davis (879)
- Billy Williams (873) *
- Tony Perez (867) *
- Dave Parker (853)
- Al Kaline (845) *
- Darrell Evans (843)
- Harold Baines (840)
- Joe Carter (836)
- Andre Dawson (834)
- Jim Rice (831)
Yes, and that is JUST considering OFFENSE!
Brock Landers said:
Talk about a bizarre career, it was Hack Wilson's career...
Also if I'm not mistaken for years Hack's RBI record was 190, at some point recently they credited him with another RBI.
Wilson's career greatness only covered 6 years...he has to have one of the lowest statistical career's in the HOF.
Hits 1,461
RBI 1,063
HR 244
His claim to fame the incredible RBI season and 56 homers in one season....his entire career lasted just 11 seasons...from what I recall reading he had many off the field troubles.
:drink:
Manny's RBI run over the past 8 years
145
165
122
125
107
104
130
140-this year
Juan Gonzales RBI run over 11 years (up til age 31)
102
109
118
85 *hurt missed 50 games
82 *hurt missed 90 games
144
131
157
128
67 *hurt missed 50 games
140
By age 31, Juan Gone had 1300 RBI , he was the one guy who may have been Manny's equal in this era.
145
165
122
125
107
104
130
140-this year
Juan Gonzales RBI run over 11 years (up til age 31)
102
109
118
85 *hurt missed 50 games
82 *hurt missed 90 games
144
131
157
128
67 *hurt missed 50 games
140
By age 31, Juan Gone had 1300 RBI , he was the one guy who may have been Manny's equal in this era.
