What's wrong with this picture: J. Schmidt -105 against Dbacks?

quantumleap · Sep 1, 2005

OK, need a little help here. This one started out at AZ -110 with Brandon Webb pitching against the Giants and Jason Schmidt. The Giants have won their last 5 when Schmidt starts. They have won 4 out of their last 5 altogether.

The Dbacks went on a long losing streak before putting together 3 in a row only to lose the last 2 in SD. Webb pitched 7 scoreless innings last time out so I'm guessing that's why this line is like this. But he's only won 3 out of his last 10 starts and he's pitching against Schmidt.

What am I missing?

:monsters-

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

I have to add another one:

StL -1.5 +110 over Hou
Agent Mulder/Astacio
Mulder pitching lights out and Hou not hitting well (with the exception of a 10-run game). StL scored 6 runs in 4 games in a row until scoring 10 yesterday. They will be playing with a day off while Hou travels.

jdub6810 · Sep 2, 2005

trap game. Man wants squares jumping all over schmidt. Then Webb drops the BOMB on 'em
it's unlikely the game will be a high scoring blowout by either side. Line looks about right with both pitchers on their games. One could justify either side winning. Giants pen could soil themselves, webb might outduel schmidt by a HR, no guarantee Schmidt will shut down DBacks.
my 2 cents, good luck!

cincy_ · Sep 2, 2005

jdub6810 said:
trap game. Man wants squares jumping all over schmidt. Then Webb drops the BOMB on 'em

How does the "man" know that Webb will drop the bomb on them?

Does he have a tarot card? Does he use horoscopes????

The Man uses stats and trends - and quantum's question is WHAT STATISTIC OR TREND is being used to set this line?

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

jdub6810 said:
trap game. Man wants squares jumping all over schmidt. Then Webb drops the BOMB on 'em
it's unlikely the game will be a high scoring blowout by either side. Line looks about right with both pitchers on their games. One could justify either side winning. Giants pen could soil themselves, webb might outduel schmidt by a HR, no guarantee Schmidt will shut down DBacks.
my 2 cents, good luck!

I almost thought not to bet this one since it may be low-scoring like you say. But take a look at arizona's bullpen ERA. I have to think that would be a factor for the Giants. That is, unless Webb goes far into the later innings.

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

cincy_ said:
How does the "man" know that Webb will drop the bomb on them?

Does he have a tarot card? Does he use horoscopes????

The Man uses stats and trends - and quantum's question is WHAT STATISTIC OR TREND is being used to set this line?

cincy:

I have to think that this line is not made on any trend as much as it is on public perception. That perception has been formed based upon Webb's last outing (in my opinion).

If this is so, look for a mediocre pitcher who has done well in his last outing to find a line that may be off.

BIGSHOTMAXXX · Sep 2, 2005

i have seen so much bullshit lately about, squares, public money, sharps, late line movement, early line movement, and countless other senseless nonsense. schmidt is the better pitcher, arizona as a whole is a mess of a tem who cant produce runs except once in a blue moon. san fran is playing much better ball and has a great chance to win at a great price...bottom line. only one team wins a game and in my view san fran has the better chance, therefore my money is on the giants...case closed...for me anyway.

gl on arizona if you play them.

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

I'm starting to see what you mean Maxxx. If there is a trick to why the linemakers make the lines I sure don't know what it is. Usually they seem to make the line based upon the pitcher along with how the team has been doing. If someone can find a line that has been hung on a team that is based upon the pitcher, yet they feel the pitcher won't be as much of a factor, that person can get an edge.

edub69 · Sep 2, 2005

I don't see why anyone would expect the Giants' lineup to fare better against Webb than the Diamondbacks' lineup will do against Schmidt. Schmidt may have a slight edge in the pitching matchup (which he actually doesn't if you look at their respective numbers), but the Giants offense is woeful - only the Nationals have scored fewer runs.

mrhognuts · Sep 2, 2005

looks like the squares are on jschmidt

BIGSHOTMAXXX · Sep 2, 2005

looks like the gambling gods are on webb...:monsters- , hope i am not left holding my square balls!!

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

edub69 said:
I don't see why anyone would expect the Giants' lineup to fare better against Webb than the Diamondbacks' lineup will do against Schmidt. Schmidt may have a slight edge in the pitching matchup (which he actually doesn't if you look at their respective numbers), but the Giants offense is woeful - only the Nationals have scored fewer runs.

Schmidt's numbers can be misleading. He had a tough time earlier in the season but has done well lately. Webb has been inconsistent.

You're right about the Giants not scoring much but the Giants have scored more for Schmidt than the Dbacks have for Webb.

edub69 · Sep 2, 2005

True, Schmidt has definitely pitched better of late. I am not trying to be contrarian here, just giving an opinion on why the line is what it is - I thought it was a pretty fair line, as the Giants can never be thought of as a strong favorite in a game where they are facing the opponent's best pitcher, especially on the road. I am leaning towards the under here, always a dicey proposition in Bank One with the roof closed.

Schmidt's last ten games:
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align=left> Aug 27</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>NYM</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 2-1</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>152.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.26</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Aug 21</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ STL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 4-2</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>145.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.41</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Aug 16</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ CIN</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 10-8</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>138.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.63</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Aug 11</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ ATL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 5-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>134.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Aug 5</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>HOU</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 4-0</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>128.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.28</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Jul 30</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ MIL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>L 1-7</TD><TD class=yspscores>L</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>120.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.56</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Jul 25</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ CHC</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>L 2-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>113.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.53</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Jul 19</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>ATL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 5-4</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>106.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.74</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Jul 14</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ LAD</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 4-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>99.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.80</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> Jul 8</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>STL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>L 1-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>L</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>93.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5.01</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

edub69 said:
True, Schmidt has definitely pitched better of late. I am not trying to be contrarian here, just giving an opinion on why the line is what it is - I thought it was a pretty fair line, as the Giants can never be thought of as a strong favorite in a game where they are facing the opponent's best pitcher, especially on the road. I am leaning towards the under here, always a dicey proposition in Bank One with the roof closed.

Schmidt's last ten games:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=12 height=18>Last 10 Games (Season Game Log)</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=200><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr align=middle colSpan=9 height=18>Season to Date</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18>Date</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18>Opponent</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18>Score</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Dec</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores 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height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>145.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.41</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Aug 16</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ CIN</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 10-8</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>138.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.63</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Aug 11</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ ATL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 5-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>134.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Aug 5</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>HOU</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 4-0</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>128.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.28</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Jul 30</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ MIL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>L 1-7</TD><TD class=yspscores>L</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>120.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.56</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Jul 25</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ CHC</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>L 2-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>113.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.53</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Jul 19</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>ATL</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 5-4</TD><TD class=yspscores>-</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>106.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.74</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left>Jul 14</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>@ LAD</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>W 4-3</TD><TD class=yspscores>W</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores 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This is good stuff edub. Thanks for chiming in.

I also see where Schmidt has been the underdog in 4 out of his last 6 starts so apparently the linesmakers have not thought as highly of Schmidt as I have.

Tulsa · Sep 2, 2005

BIGSHOTMAXXX said:
looks like the gambling gods are on webb...:monsters- , hope i am not left holding my square balls!!

LOL!! LOL!! Sometimes I think my balls are square too.... still laughing....tulsa

jdub6810 · Sep 2, 2005

Experience tells me that when Schmidt looks like he should be a heavy favorite, & he's not, it is a tremor in the force, & you should take the home dog or pass.
IMO nobody should bet this game at all, because both teams stink, & putting your money behind bad teams is true GAMBLING. If you truly know these teams & see a fundamental edge in either side, play it! I'd rather find an edge on a strong dog than a weak favorite. Nothing sucks like seeing bad bats, pitching or defense sink your bet.
good luck! :103631605

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

Adding:

TB/Tor under 10 -119
Hendrickson/Downs

Det/CWS over 9 -105
Douglass/Garcia

BIGSHOTMAXXX · Sep 2, 2005

good job on these 2 ql...you are good at totals bro!!!

quantumleap said:
Adding:

TB/Tor under 10 -119
Hendrickson/Downs

Det/CWS over 9 -105
Douglass/Garcia

quantumleap · Sep 2, 2005

BIGSHOTMAXXX said:
good job on these 2 ql...you are good at totals bro!!!

Thanks Maxxx.

TB/Tor went under. Det/CWS total so far is at 9 so I only need one more run with a few innings to go.

BIGSHOTMAXXX · Sep 2, 2005

i just looked at the score, says 9-1...thats a win to me!!! i gotta start folloing you on some of these totals...i am HORRIBLE at them but is a cheaper way to make some coin if you are good at it!!