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While everyone else had the 2nd half total at 19.5 and 20, Pinny hangs a 17.5 up there - they only get people taking the over and trying to hit a middle.

While CRIS has a Miami -6 for the 2nd half, Pinny hangs a -4 and a -4.5 and only gets Miami action and they eat up everything there too.
 

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I dont think so.

I know a lot of people who are VERY sharp that look for good lines at HT. The lines never get to settle, so you can get good value at one shop or another.

The one place the books need to really adjust, and I think they will, is on HT totals of blowouts - they are always too high.
 

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Many books had 17.5 for the second half. Olympic, Hollywood, and WSEX are three of them. Numerous books had -4.5 as well. In fact, Olympic opened it at -3 and then quickly adjusted. Hollywood went with -0.5 with a big money line attached.
 

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17- and 20 with laying prices are about the same. too many dead numbers. 17 and 20 key numbers 18 and 19 are dead.Watch half time lines -games cant end in ties so if a game is 3 at half with dog winning like fsu 10-7 when miami comes out 2- minus a price or 3- 3- is the bet.miami cant win second half by 3.that is a tie game and it cant end there.I loved Miami second half I had them as a rooting only bet at 2- -15 for game.telling all friends that fsu plus3- was the better bet because its always close and value .but being from miami and having a party with over 30 people rooting I had to bet Miami.After seeing first half,I was now going to bet max at under 4 flat. I was on phone with cris holding for their opener and with hollywood also I thought I was first at cris and ended up getting line 3rd both others players bet same side Miami. hollywood gave me 1/2 laying 45cent and I wanted to lay4 -10cents .watching don best and chasing number I finally settled for fsu plus 6-15cents and held 500 on Miami for smaller rooting purposes only. Lesson again when number runs a muck either pass or bet other side.
 

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beenaround,

I don't know you, but you seem VERY knowledgable about what you are doing. Very smart.

Good luck to you.

CK
 

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OLYMPIC HAD 17.5 also
 

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i had fsu and feel very lucky to win that game was a steal and pinnacle has the sharpest lines around.


EDIT....Tang-behave
 

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Hollywood's halftime number was actually much sharper. they used .5 minus 175 and sucked everyone dry. :drink: :drink:
 

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Bullring you are 100% correct. I know a few ownerrs offshore and they all say that Quarter and halftime bets are for degenerates that need more action in a game than just the standard final line,lol. The books LOVE all quarter and halftime players. Most players who lose the 1st half chase the 2nd half,lol. And the winners do too,lol.
 

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Halftime line

Olympic's opening halftime line at -4 made it obvious they wanted lots of action on Miami. A line of anything less than 6 was begging for one sided action on Miami. And at -4, they would only have to win by 1 instead of having to cover the initial 3 1/2 point spread - so even people taking Miami for the game had incentive to possibly double up.

This is how the books make money on halftime lines and happens all the time. It's very difficult to generate equal action in such a short time span. Instead they'll just try to draw one way action and get that side to lose. A higher vig on that side also ensures that if they do this for many games in the course of the season, they'll come out way ahead even if they are wrong a few times.
 

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Pinny actually gives you a point line and money line at Halftimes. The other night ay halftime of the Utah/Arizona game the line was Utah -2 1/2 +119 and Arizona +2 1/2 -131, but the money line for the 2nd half was Arizona +186 and Utah -206. I bet Arizona money line 2nd half and felt that # was off, too high, took advantage and it payed off. Sometimes you need to just sit and watch and not just jump in,lol.
 

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it is interesting how there are different interpretations of this halftime line. It looked to me like the BOOKS loved Miami Fla and did not want any Mia Action thus the super high line and high juice at - 4 1/2 -135 and the like. They would have made a fortune if they just had the line at what the first half line was - 1 1/2 -145 for example.


I thought these books got killed with this line. Everybody knew that the
game line for the entire game was only - 3 1/2 and the first half line was only - 1 1/2

now a second half line was - 4 1/2 with high juice on Miami.

The couple people I talked to saw that as a overlay for Fla State, They were not thrilled to have Fla State as they looked bad but value is value. Figure it would be low scoring and grab that value. + 4 1/2 and +115 or even + 41/2 +125 at olympic. Did people actually play Miami - 4 1/2 -145 and figure that was the value overlay play? I cant imiagine too many sharps would do that its horrible value compared to the game line and half line and it seemed certain to be a low scoring close half like the first half. plus Miami showed it had no kicking game. Granted the Miami QB looked decent and had some dropped passes in the first half. But the TD they got was pretty much a fluke jump ball.

Now I read here that the books cleaned up on this line. maybe they did I just find it interesting how we all watch the same thing and interpretate so differently!
 

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Hollywood must have made a killing on the miami game at half time.They had Miami -.5 -170 who makes the lines at Hollywood this guy is very sharp.
 

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There is definitely value to be had in half time lines but for the most part, books clean up on 2H plays - especially these high profile prime time games. Time and time again a weak player will see his game bet losing and jump in on the 2H line for the classic chase your losses play.
 

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Hollywood must have made a killing on the miami game at half time.They had Miami -.5 -170 who makes the lines at Hollywood this guy is very sharp.

With a line like this, I would think Hollywood wanted action on Florida State and not Miami. With Miami at -.5 -170, I would not see much incentive to take them mainly because of the possible margins of victory. It's basically like getting them at +2.5 -170 for the game. Being down by 3 at the half, I would think that losing the game by 1 or 2 points would seem pretty unlikely. So I think a Miami second half bettor would have been better off laying 4, 5, 6 points at -110 or -120, etc.
 

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If you are fortunate to find and wager a scalp/middle involving Pinny, more chances than not you will end up losing money over the longhaul at Pinny.

Nuff said
 

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