Couldn't agree more. Eagles own the Falcons like Cowboys owned the Pack in the mid to late 90's. Eventually in a game, a quarterback needs to make a big play (a big passing play that is). Vick isn't capable of doing this on a consistent basis.
Not only is he not a great passer, he doesn't have anyone to throw to besides Crumpler.
This should be an easy win tonight for the Eagles.
IS
Not only is he not a great passer, he doesn't have anyone to throw to besides Crumpler.
This should be an easy win tonight for the Eagles.
IS
You guys are nuts. Vick may not be a pocket passer, but who really cares? That guy is pure excitement, a blur when he gets rolling. That one replay tonight where they are in slow mo and it still looks like Vick is running full speed was something else. Just like most NFL QBs Vick will only win a title if they put a good enough team around him. Brady got a great team around him and look what happens. You guys can't tell me Vick doesn't win a Super Bowl if he started for the Pats. Its one player out of 47, 21 of whom also start the game. Can't ever forget that.
Lets get real ....
Tarkenton was the premier scrambler of his era and never won a Title and his name is never mentioned
Elway was considered a choker until he won a SB and then became one of the all-time greats
Vick is a great ATHLETE .... Vick is an avg qb and dont care how "exciting" he is because no SB ring and he will never be considered in the upper echelon of QBs today ....
Tarkenton was the premier scrambler of his era and never won a Title and his name is never mentioned
Elway was considered a choker until he won a SB and then became one of the all-time greats
Vick is a great ATHLETE .... Vick is an avg qb and dont care how "exciting" he is because no SB ring and he will never be considered in the upper echelon of QBs today ....
His running ability puts him into the top 5-10 qb's in the league. He's not as good as Manning, Brady - but he's in the top tier for sure. What he lacks in passing he makes up for with running. Did you see some of the runs he made last night? How abbout the numerous times he scrambled away from a sack and completed a pass downfield. He's definitely improved his pure pocket passing since he has been in the league. He's hyped like he is because he is one of the most exciting players in the game and nobody can deny that.
3peet said:
Is this a joke? I don't think it'll be possible for football fans to forget Brady and the Pats' dominance over the past few years. In the end, ALL people remember is championships. That's why you'll start to see names like Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, and Dan Marino start to be left out of conversation unless someone's talking about records.
Brady will never be forgotten because of his rings. If Vick doesn't learn to throw the ball(how many times does he sail it over wide open WRs heads?), it won't matter how exciting he is. Randall Cunningham was exciting as hell. See how many people talk about him in 20 years instead of Troy Aikman and Steve Young.
It AMAZES me that the VICK hype is STRONG now in the years 2002-2005
RANDALL CUNNINGHAM proportionately in his NFL time frame was the SAME EXACT QB. And the NFL rediculed him. I think society has come a long way. The key is will QB's like this EVER WIN the SUPER BOWL. Or will a defensive scheme always break them down in the BIG GAME!!!
as far as over rated
Pennington and Boller are by FAR the TWO most over rated QB's in the NFL. Well Boller was never rated....so maybe he just is a BUST, and Joey Harrington against a week Packers defense, is living on thin ice as well!!!
RANDALL CUNNINGHAM proportionately in his NFL time frame was the SAME EXACT QB. And the NFL rediculed him. I think society has come a long way. The key is will QB's like this EVER WIN the SUPER BOWL. Or will a defensive scheme always break them down in the BIG GAME!!!
as far as over rated
Pennington and Boller are by FAR the TWO most over rated QB's in the NFL. Well Boller was never rated....so maybe he just is a BUST, and Joey Harrington against a week Packers defense, is living on thin ice as well!!!
What kills me about the Ravens Franchise is Billick is like an arm chair QB himself sitting at home drinking his Budweiser
He just did not like Dilfer, but they might have gotten to another SUper Bowl if they had him.
Imagine if the Ravens had a Gus Ferotte, or Jay Fiedler, or Kurt Warner, or Drew Bledsoe.......and you laugh as a RAVENS fan and say as you drink your Budweiser or Natty Bo.......We do not want those bums, they stink
Really they stink.........Well considering the Ravens want to win a Super Bowl with a 80% defensive team..........Then you should not need much at QB
Well then the RAVENS must really have nothing at QB......and they don't!!:digit:
He just did not like Dilfer, but they might have gotten to another SUper Bowl if they had him.
Imagine if the Ravens had a Gus Ferotte, or Jay Fiedler, or Kurt Warner, or Drew Bledsoe.......and you laugh as a RAVENS fan and say as you drink your Budweiser or Natty Bo.......We do not want those bums, they stink
Really they stink.........Well considering the Ravens want to win a Super Bowl with a 80% defensive team..........Then you should not need much at QB
Well then the RAVENS must really have nothing at QB......and they don't!!:digit:
