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I will be playing an AWAY SERIES CHASE for the entire 2005-06 NHL Season. This type of system requires a lot of discipline, as you will not get rich quick. You can, however, realize a profit of somewhere between 150 and 200 UNITS over the course of a season if you follow the rules - that's where the discipline comes in.

The whole idea behind this system is simple. Hockey is a very physical game and with an 84 game schedule there is a lot of travel required over short periods of time, often leaving teams battered, bruised and tired - especially when they are on extended road trips. With this in mind, teams embarking on a road trip that is a MINIMUM of 3 games long have a very low chance of winning all of the games on that road trip.

Each road trip is called a SERIES. The goal for each SERIES is to realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT by betting AGAINST the traveling team. If the traveling team wins the 1st game of the road trip then the CHASE begins. You now must wager enough on the 2nd game of the SERIES to recover the lost wager on the 1st game while still trying to realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT. If, by chance, the traveling team were to sweep their road trip, you must then take the total amount lost in that SERIES and spread it out evenly across the remaining SERIES. This will give you a NEW GOAL that will be MORE THAN 1 UNIT PROFIT per SERIES. Raising the target for PROFIT in the remaining SERIES will ensure that you are still going to PROFIT by 1 UNIT for each SERIES over the course of the entire season.

I have identified 171 SERIES for the 2005-06 NHL Season. This means that if the rules are followed, a profit of 171 UNITS could be realized once April rolls around.


EXAMPLE: Toronto starts a 3 Game road trip, traveling to Ottawa, Montreal and New York.

Game 1: OTTAWA -150 vs. Toronto
Bet: OTTAWA (Wager 1.5 UNITS to WIN 1 UNIT)
Result: Toronto Win. 1.5 UNITS LOST

Game 2: MONTREAL -110 vs. Toronto
Bet: MONTREAL (Wager 2.75 UNITS to WIN 2.5 UNITS)
Result: If Montreal Wins, we recover the 1.5 UNITS LOST in Game 1 and realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT. The SERIES is OVER.
If Toronto Wins, we must wager enough in Game 3 to recover the 2.75 UNIT Wager that was Lost in Game 2 while still trying to realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT, as follows:

Game 3: NEW YORK -125 vs. Toronto
Bet: NEW YORK (Wager 4.7 UNITS to WIN 3.75 UNITS)
Result: If New York Wins, we recover the 2.75 UNITS Lost on Game 2 and PROFIT by 1 UNIT for the SERIES. If Toronto Wins and they sweep the SERIES we have a NET LOSS of 4.7 UNITS.
If there were 118 SERIES remaining of the original 171 for the season, we would look to recover the 4.7 UNITS Lost by dividing it up over the remaining 118 SERIES (4.7/118 = 0.04 UNITS). Our NEW GOAL for the remaining 118 SERIES would be to realize a PROFIT of 1.04 UNITS per SERIES.

I played this system during the 2003-04 season and it provided, on average, a PROFIT of 7 UNITS per week. Once I saw how profitable this system was, I was pretty annoyed when the entire 2004-05 season was cancelled. I believe in this system but it requires discipline and consistent wagering in order to be profitable. In this thread, I will be posting all games to be wagered on and the amount to bet on each, along with a running total of wins, losses and profit.

It all starts on Wednesday, October 5th with 3 SERIES involving Calgary, Montreal and San Jose. LET THE CHASE BEGIN…..
 

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Interesting. I'll watch this one with you, Mark.
 

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This sounds like a dangerous martingale system. I presume you would need to have a large bankroll in relation to unit size to pull this off without a large risk of ruin. Did a large percentage of your profit come down to the last week of the season where your bets were increased due to the raised target for bets late in the season?
 

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Not sure what you mean by NET loss...

If Toronto wins the first two games in your example, you need to recover a total of 4.25 units (1.5 + 2.75), not 2.75, which means you need to wager 6.5625 units to win 5.25 on NEW YORK (-125) in Game 3 to make your 1 unit profit for the series.

If Toronto sweeps, your down 10.8125 units. Spreading that out over 118 remaining series (10.8125/118 = 0.09 units) would give you a new profit goal of 1.09 per series.
 

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Joey North said:
This sounds like a dangerous martingale system. I presume you would need to have a large bankroll in relation to unit size to pull this off without a large risk of ruin. Did a large percentage of your profit come down to the last week of the season where your bets were increased due to the raised target for bets late in the season?

Good Question. I am starting with a bankroll of 100 UNITS, which should be plenty. Out of the 112 SERIES that I played in 2003-04 my record was 108-4, so the target did not rise that much, especially since 2 of the 4 SERIES losses came fairly early in the season. While the 108-4 record looks very impressive, keep in mind, it is the SERIES record and not the games won/lost record (I only need to register 1 win per SERIES to record a winning SERIES).
No doubt that the end of the season can be nerve wracking, as it is certainly the riskiest time of the year. This is because the target for each SERIES can become quite high after a loss, due to the fact that you have fewer chances to recover your losses. If things are going well once March rolls around, it may be prudent not to play the last couple of weeks in the season so as to preserve profits, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.
With ALL sports gambling there is risk involved. THIS SYSTEM IS NO DIFFERENT, but it has been proven to me that it can work.


BRING BACK THE JETS AND THE SEA OF WHITE!!!

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Not sure what you mean by NET loss...

If Toronto wins the first two games in your example, you need to recover a total of 4.25 units (1.5 + 2.75), not 2.75, which means you need to wager 6.5625 units to win 5.25 on NEW YORK (-125) in Game 3 to make your 1 unit profit for the series.

If Toronto sweeps, your down 10.8125 units. Spreading that out over 118 remaining series (10.8125/118 = 0.09 units) would give you a new profit goal of 1.09 per series.

You are correct. Typing too fast. I screwed up the numbers on Game 3, but you get my point.

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The example shown in Post #2 should read as follows:

EXAMPLE: Toronto starts a 3 Game road trip, traveling to Ottawa, Montreal and New York.

Game 1: OTTAWA -150 vs. Toronto
Bet: OTTAWA (Wager 1.5 UNITS to WIN 1 UNIT)
Result: Toronto Win. 1.5 UNITS LOST

Game 2: MONTREAL -110 vs. Toronto
Bet: MONTREAL (Wager 2.75 UNITS to WIN 2.5 UNITS)
Result: If Montreal Wins, we recover the 1.5 UNITS LOST in Game 1 and realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT. The SERIES is OVER.
If Toronto Wins, we must wager enough in Game 3 to recover the 2.75 UNIT Wager that was Lost in Game 2 AND the 1.50 UNIT Wager that was lost in Game 1, while still trying to realize a PROFIT of 1 UNIT, as follows:

Game 3: NEW YORK -125 vs. Toronto
Bet: NEW YORK (Wager 6.56 UNITS to WIN 5.25 UNITS)
Result: If New York Wins, we recover the 4.25 UNITS Lost on Games 1 and 2, and PROFIT by 1 UNIT for the SERIES. In the unlikely event that Toronto Wins and they sweep the SERIES we have a NET LOSS of 10.81 UNITS (1.5 + 2.75 + 6.56).
If there were 118 SERIES remaining of the original 171 for the season, we would look to recover the 10.81 UNITS Lost by dividing it up over the remaining 118 SERIES (10.81/118 = 0.09 UNITS). Our NEW GOAL for the remaining 118 SERIES would be to realize a PROFIT of 1.09 UNITS per SERIES.
 

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Markie Mark said:
BRING BACK THE JETS AND THE SEA OF WHITE!!!

MM

This is VERY wishful thinking. We have the new arena, but I just cannot see it happening.

Good luck with your system, but with only 100 units I could see a run of bad luck wiping out your bank. In the end, +EV is +EV and -EV is -EV, you cannot beat a roulette wheel with this type of system unless you have unlimited bankroll and the casino would take any bet, so the only way I could see this betting system working in the long run is if the angle by itself would work without varying bet sizes.
 

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I love the idea of this system. There's nothing truer then the grueling road trip. Now with the elimination of ties, it should be that much easier to do well with this system. I'm curious, do you lay off home teams who are playing back to back games? B2Bers usually end up with either a 2nd string goalie or a sluggish lineup.
 

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Some people say that Vegas was built on anti progressive betting systems. In fact if I owned a Casino I would send a Limo to pick up anyone who wanted to test theirs out. This is providing the stake was high enough of course. I wish you luck but as was stated before an unlimited bankroll is the only way I could see it working. One bad run of luck and your cash is toast besides the fact of putting yourself under tremendous pressure if your deep in the chase scheme. You might want to have a doctor close by if and when that situation occurs.
 

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Juggler said:
One bad run of luck and your cash is toast besides the fact of putting yourself under tremendous pressure if your deep in the chase scheme. You might want to have a doctor close by if and when that situation occurs.

Thanks for your concern :103631605
 

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very nice, will be looking in... as i am often a systems player..
 

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It makes sense to me, but I don't have the bankroll or the balls to follow it.

It seems a lot like Taters basketball system, except I don't think Tater passed the losses on to other series. If the away team won all the road games you just took the loss and started all over. Couldn't you do it that way so the stake amounts don't get ridiculous after a couple of series losses? You may not make as much in the end, but you certainly wouldn't lose as much. Or am I confused? Hahahaha
 

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Couldn't you do it that way so the stake amounts don't get ridiculous after a couple of series losses? You may not make as much in the end, but you certainly wouldn't lose as much. Or am I confused? Hahahaha

In a word, No.

Recovering your losses is a big part of this system, otherwise, if you lose a couple of series close together it will take a very long time to recover, if at all.

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Wednesday, October 5

Wednesday, October 5

SERIES TOTAL TO DATE: 0-0 (+0.00 UNITS)

PENDING SERIES:
None

NEW SERIES:
Series 1 - Calgary
Series 2 - Montreal
Series 3 - San Jose


TODAY'S PICKS (All lines are from Olympic)
MINNESOTA +125 over Calgary Wager 0.8 UNITS to win 1 UNIT
BOSTON -155 over Montreal Wager 1.55 UNITS to win 1 UNIT
NASHVILLE -135 over San Jose Wager 1.35 UNITS to win 1 UNIT

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Thursday, October 6

Thursday, October 6

TOTAL TO DATE: 2-0 (+2.00 UNITS)

PENDING SERIES:
Series 2 - Montreal

NEW SERIES:
None

TODAY'S PICKS:
NY RANGERS +105 over Montreal (Wager 2.43 UNITS to Win 2.55 UNITS) Olympic


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Friday, October 7

Friday, October 7

TOTAL TO DATE: 2-0 (+2.00 UNITS)

PENDING SERIES
Series 2 - Montreal (-3.98 Thru 2 Games)

NEW SERIES
Series 4 - Boston

TODAY'S PICKS
BUFFALO +110 over Boston (Wager 0.9 UNITS to Win 1 UNIT) Pinnacle


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another nice night..gotta luv when the 1st game of the series comes through..that's 3 out of 4 to start the year..need the Leafs on Saturday:103631605
 

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