Its total bullshit. A SHIT book move. BTW, Its the lowest amount of the wager, risk or win.
Nice start for Trojan sportsbook. Screws over the bettor by shortcahnging them on the small change, and then the bullshit rollover. So if I put $300 in action and win $50, only the $50 counts toward the rollover. Thats a BetUs move.
Nice start for Trojan sportsbook. Screws over the bettor by shortcahnging them on the small change, and then the bullshit rollover. So if I put $300 in action and win $50, only the $50 counts toward the rollover. Thats a BetUs move.
It's just a form of deceptive marketing. The rollover is normally calculated by adding up the amount of money risked by the player. All bets that are offered have a house hold, so it shouldn't matter.
All it does is make the true effective rollover higher and allow them to advertise the lower number through the use of fine print.
All it does is make the true effective rollover higher and allow them to advertise the lower number through the use of fine print.
The hold isn't the same - if you play a -1000 ML (take back +800) the hold is only 2%. As the moneylines get higher, you either have ridiculous looking numbers, or a lower hold.
I thought every book used the lesser of risk/win amount, but it has never been an issue for me (I only play at places that offer something good; I'll keep playing there even after rollover is met)
I thought every book used the lesser of risk/win amount, but it has never been an issue for me (I only play at places that offer something good; I'll keep playing there even after rollover is met)
daringly said:
You are correct that the hold changes as the line moves up, but that's why the spread widens to offset it.
Rollover is understood to be the amount of times you wager the deposit plus the bonus. To do it any other way requires fine print. Why don't they just give a higher rollover requirement and spare you the fine print?
Answer: It doesn't sound as attractive.
I was recently speaking to Heritage and they also said they use the "base amount" of bets for the rollover on their sign-up bonuses. Sportbet is another book that does that.
There are also books that won't count bets over certain odds towards the rollover. Like Royal won't count bets of over -260 (or something like that).
I don't have any particular problem with them doing that; it just seems weird to me. It's like they are trying to discourage people laying chalk. If I was a book, I would want all the chalk-layers I could get my hands on.
There are also books that won't count bets over certain odds towards the rollover. Like Royal won't count bets of over -260 (or something like that).
I don't have any particular problem with them doing that; it just seems weird to me. It's like they are trying to discourage people laying chalk. If I was a book, I would want all the chalk-layers I could get my hands on.
In our defense, we do it based on the wager amount. Which yes does happen to be the smaller amount always. But it's not based on "the smallest amount" it's "the wager amount" ad clearly stated on our rules page. No hidden rules here. Dog players would have a fit if we did it by win risk amounts but they are usually more educated in the gaming business. You can't always please every player.
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With 20% and a 5x rollover if with the wager amount being counted towards the rollover. If you go 50% you are still up on us. I think there is nothing unfair about that. We are still a business and honestly right now, we are exposed.<o></o>
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Zero fine print at http://www.bettrojan.com/payout.htmhttp://www.bettrojan.com/rules I even stress that everyone reads and understands all rules before posting up. Don't like suprises.
Mike
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